Future of MK

Commander

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No it's not smart, actually. If the Original 7, Kung Lao, Kitana, and Jax aren't playable out of the box at no additional charge, the game will automatically flop, and it would be justification for WB to shut down the Mortal Kombat IP for good.

It's this type of extremism that makes me worry about the MK fanbase, sometimes.
A few characters sitting out doesn't mean the game will flop and WB / NRS will shut down.
There are still 8 klassic characters that are not in MK11 and it was 1 of the Top 5 selling games of last year.
That should tell you that the name "Mortal Kombat" itself is enough to sell like hotcakes.
While I understand that Sub-Zero, Scorpion, Raiden and Liu Kang are the top 4 characters in all of MK, some of the other 10 klassic characters that NRS has put in MK9, MKX and MK11 can be swapped out for other klassics and people would probably be fine with it.
Hell, the reddit and social media is full of people who want Mileena, Reptile and the remaining male ninjas.
I'm pretty sure that if Sonya, Kano or Jax sat out in favor of some of those other characters that I mentioned that people constantly request, it wouldn't be as big of a deal.

Plenty of people in the fanbase have wondered why for 2 games now both Sonya and Johnny are in when Cassie is also in.
Whatever happened to the bullshit about passing the torch to the next generation?
It's especially laughable when people either shit on Sonya because in MKX because of character or in MK11 because of "Rhonda Rousey" or because "sHe'S bRoKeN," yet with all the shitting on Sonya that people do, she's in.
 

Tarkatan Trash

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As someone who has been following Tekken since the first game came out shortly after the launch of the original PlayStation, I can tell you for an absolute fact that people complaining about Mr. and Mrs. Cage being playable due to the presence of Cassie are straight up bullshit artists because Tekken has had the Mishimas and the William Sisters (not to be confused with the IRL tennis stars) since Day One, and none of those bullshit artists batted an eye over that.

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Commander

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Yes, because every single MK player also plays Tekken, so we're painting people with a broad brush now. /s

We've also had Sindel and Kitana as mother and daughter in MK lore since MKII, but the point was that NRS created Cassie, Takeda, Jacqui and Kung Jin with the purpose of presenting them to the fans as a "passing the torch" and that never really happened.
 

Xenon

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Yes, because every single MK player also plays Tekken, so we're painting people with a broad brush now. /s

We've also had Sindel and Kitana as mother and daughter in MK lore since MKII, but the point was that NRS created Cassie, Takeda, Jacqui and Kung Jin with the purpose of presenting them to the fans as a "passing the torch" and that never really happened.

It's pretty obvious why "passing the torch" didn't happen... NRS has awful new characters. What's the point of Kollector? What was the point of Ferra Torr? Why does Kotal even exist? As for the kids, the only reason why Jacqui's there is because Ed Boon loves it. Nobody gives a turd about Kung Jin or Takeda. That only leaves us with Cassie, who's basically a mix of Johnny and Sonya. Take away all these new characters, and MK is still going to be fine. Can't do that with classic characters.
 

Commander

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It's pretty obvious why "passing the torch" didn't happen... NRS has awful new characters. What's the point of Kollector? What was the point of Ferra Torr? Why does Kotal even exist? As for the kids, the only reason why Jacqui's there is because Ed Boon loves it. Nobody gives a turd about Kung Jin or Takeda. That only leaves us with Cassie, who's basically a mix of Johnny and Sonya. Take away all these new characters, and MK is still going to be fine. Can't do that with classic characters.

I thought Takeda's / Kenshi's story was awesome and he was 1 of my mains in MKX (Ronin variation).
Ferra / Torr was also an awesome character to play as.
Takeda is also the character from MKX that people tend to request a lot from that game, either on reddit or social media.
Out of all of the 8 new MKX characters, Takeda is the one that I hear a lot of people saying that they liked and wish had returned for MK11.
As for why the newer characters don't have much story development, unfortunately that's due to shitty writing (in general) on NRS part.
Some of the Klassic characters like Jax, Kano, Noob and Kabal also still have 0 story progression, because again, NRS has done a shitty job of trying to develop them.
People expect the new characters to be hit characters within just 1 game, when I clearly remember people talking shit about Shinnok in the MK4 era and how he was a silly "clown" looking character, prior to MKX coming out.
MKX Shinnok comes out and we have a badass Mythologies Demon / Corrupt Shinnok and all of that shit talking suddenly goes away.
So, this community can really miss me with that shit.
People in this community also talked mad bullshit about Sheeva when she was announced for MK11, because either "she sucked in MK9" or someone going "I'd rather have__________" and then when she came out all that people complained about was "Sheeva mains" (and not just the Telestomp). Not many were willing to really give her a chance prior to her MK11 release, though.
People also have a short / selective memory and forget that a lot of these klassic characters and 3D era characters took YEARS to be accepted into the fandom.
I mean, shit, people complained when Sonya and Kano went missing from MKII and also complained about that roster, and now people look back on MKII with rose tinted glasses, forgetting that others were annoyed that those 2 skipped a game.

EDIT:
I also remember people going "fvck Tanya, who cares" during the time of MK4 and then people wanted her back for MKX.
 
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Chri$$

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The future of MK ain't looking too good to me. WB/NRS has proven time and time again that they are not creative, ever since MK9 they cucked themselves into a corner unable to have a good story without some alternate timeline, reboot or revenant bs. Everytime they try something new or go in a different direction they cave in like cucks and end doing the same shit over and over. I feel like a MK prequel should've been done before the MK9 reboot, but they basically played all of their cards and now all its starting to backfire. They had chances to develop the 3D era/WB era and even some of the lore characters that has never been in a official MK game. But each time a new game comes out what happens? They end up using the cast they been using since the last 4 games, yea you get a couple of surprises but still doesn't compensate for the fact instead of being innovative with roster, stories they just rather rely on the one trick they been using for decades. WB has ed this franchise adding all these lame ass guest characters. MK is not no smash bro or mugen and having guest takes away the development of characters that haven't been used that have so much potential.

Here is my ideal MK12 roster that would be better refreshing than anything NRS would come up with.

1. Rain
2. Kotal Kahn
3. Scorpion
4. Subzero
5. Nitara
6. Sareena
7. Great Kung Lao
8. Argus
9. Jataaka
10. Kollector
11. Havik
12. Tremor
13. Goro
14. Sindel
15. Erron Black
16. Hornbuckle
17. Taven
18. Reptile
19. Fujin
20. Raiden
21. Ferra Torr
22. Reiko
23. Tanya
24. Cyrax/Sektor/Smoke
25. Chameleon/Khameleon
26. Nightwolf
27. The Water God from mythologies
28. Nimbus Terrafaux
29. Kenshi
30. Frost

A roster to something similar to is what they need to do next game it has a healthy balance of classic trilogy/ 3D fan favorites along with revamped lore characters and some of the newer characters. A healthy balance that not only would be refreshing but unpredictable but of course we will get the same roster again with even more guest smfh.
 

Nasty_Freak

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Mortalkombatleaks/comments/jdwo22/ive_been_talking_to_dvdgamescenter_and_he_asked/

Here's a leak of MK12. If true, here is what I'd like the roster to be based on this leak Read the leak first before commenting...


* Reptile (Protagonist with the name Syzioss as mentioned in the leak.)
* Khameleon (With Saurian moves and weapons of Mileena. She can be Kiri from MK Conquest. She can be the Mileena of this game gameplay wise.)
* The Great Kung Lao
* Goro
* Kintaro
* Liu Kang (With Raiden’s powers.)
* Selemence (Should be a new evil sorcerer working for the evil Dragon King. Has powers of Quan Chi, Shang Tsung, and Shinnok.)
* Scorpion (Not Hanzo Hasashi. It can be Shujinko who would be trained by the Shirai Ryu.)
* Sub-Zero (Not Kuai Liang nor Bi Han. It should be a new Lin Kuei member.)
* Taja from MK Conquest or a new character to replace Sonya that will aid the Great Kung Lao. She can use a giant bow as a staff and to shoot arrows with similar to how Kung Jin does.
* Siro from MK Conquest or a new character to replace Johnny Cage that will aid the Great Kung Lao. He can be a comic relief. He can use 2 knives and be able to throw them.
* Nitara (Uses her kamas, blood magic, nails, teeth, and wings.)
* Ashrah (Uses her Kriss, which is possessed by an evil entity known as Datusha. The sword makes Ashrah kill most of Nitara's vampire race.)
* Ermac (Since he is consisted of many souls, the dominant soul in his body can be a Samurai and he'd wield a katana and use it like Kenshi.)
* Smoke
* Havik (Represent Chaosrealm. Can use his Morning Star.)
* Fujin (Same weapons and abilities as MK11.)
* A BETTER D’Vorah (less annoying) or a better Kytinn character. Kreeya from the MK Conquest show would be nice. This character can show the origins of the Kytinn.
* Hotaru (For Orderealm.)
* Reiko (Can have Shao Kahn's hammer and shoot ninja stars.)
* Vorpax (From MK Conquest. She can wield a sword and shield. She can be a love interest of the Great Kung Lao but betray him for the Dragon King and/or Selemance.)
* Emerald (Jade's mother and the same woman in Jade's MK9 and MK11 ending. Should have Jade's weapons and abilities. She's working for the Dragon King but is secretly trying to find ways to help the protagonists and to help Kitana, Jade, and Tanya escape.)
* King Jerrod (He can use a sword and his powers from one of the comics.)
* Sindel (Is actually a protagonist this time and looks very young and elegant with no white hair.)
* Argus (He can use a giant sword like how Taven did in MKA.)
* Delia (She can be a sorceress that wields fans like Kitana while performing magic. She can be like Mai Shiranui but much more powerful and violent.)
* Motaro (As a centaur with 4 legs. He is the sub-boss working for the Dragon King. He can also use a spear like Shao Kahn's.)
* Onaga (The Dragon King himself as the final boss. Takes over Outworld and goes rogue like Shao Kahn. Captures the younger (toddler) versions of Kitana, Jade, and Tanya to be his assassins.)

The story should be about the Saurian King (Reptile's father) being killed by Onaga.
 

Commander

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1. Rain
2. Kotal Kahn
3. Scorpion
4. Subzero
5. Nitara
6. Sareena
7. Great Kung Lao
8. Argus
9. Jataaka
10. Kollector
11. Havik
12. Tremor
13. Goro
14. Sindel
15. Erron Black
16. Hornbuckle
17. Taven
18. Reptile
19. Fujin
20. Raiden
21. Ferra Torr
22. Reiko
23. Tanya
24. Cyrax/Sektor/Smoke
25. Chameleon/Khameleon
26. Nightwolf
27. The Water God from mythologies
28. Nimbus Terrafaux
29. Kenshi
30. Frost

A roster to something similar to is what they need to do next game it has a healthy balance of classic trilogy/ 3D fan favorites along with revamped lore characters and some of the newer characters. A healthy balance that not only would be refreshing but unpredictable but of course we will get the same roster again with even more guest smfh.

I'd be totally fine with seeing something like this.
At least it would be a breath of fresh air in comparison to the majority or 2/3 of the roster being from MK9.
 
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Guyver Spawn

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With a newtime line happening, I can see the game having two time skips. The first half of the game being set during the Great Kung Lao time and the other taking place in the modern day. I could see NRS taking inspiration from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure for MK12 because that series also had a universal time reset with Part 7 being set in the 19th century and Part 8 being set in modern day. I do hope we get a brand new instead of having Shinnok or Shao Khan again.
 

Nasty_Freak

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With a newtime line happening, I can see the game having two time skips. The first half of the game being set during the Great Kung Lao time and the other taking place in the modern day. I could see NRS taking inspiration from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure for MK12 because that series also had a universal time reset with Part 7 being set in the 19th century and Part 8 being set in modern day. I do hope we get a brand new instead of having Shinnok or Shao Khan again.

That’d be nice. I hope the new villain is Onaga and another new female boss or a playable (and much better looking) Kronika.
 

Commander

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Whatever they do I hope they don't write themselves into a corner and end up having to reboot the timeline AGAIN
If they reboot the timeline again
Spoiler:
because of Liu Kang's ending in Aftermath
then I hope that we see some new stuff and not the same shit from MK9.
For fvcks' sake, it would be cool to see
Spoiler:
a freed Edenia without Shao Kahn merging it with Outworld, or perhaps the GKL and Goro are now allies now that Shang Tsung is dead.

Dunno, but I want to see some original stuff.
 

Xenon

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They already wrote themselves not just into a corner, but a hole... All the way to the Netherrealm.
 

Tarkatan Trash

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"They" you say? Because I only see one person writing this timeline into a hole, and that is Shawn Kittelsen, who is as qualified to write MK story material as the man delivering my mail everyday, and that mailman doesn't even own a copy of a Mortal Kombat game.
 

BBBLP

Robot Rock
Yeah there's no hope for MK's story while Dom is on it. All this pseudo Avengers shit is for the birds. Its just going in circles
 

Commander

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Yeah there's no hope for MK's story while Dom is on it. All this pseudo Avengers shit is for the birds. Its just going in circles
Agreed.
This may be one of those instances where they need to give Vogel a prominent writing role again, or maybe even hire on Tobias as a consultant on this stuff. I had hopes for MK11's story after the MKX comics because it felt like Kittelsen did a decent job with them, but it seems like somewhere between the MKX comics and the MK11 story mode ideas clashed and it became more of a mess (imo).
At least when Vogel had a more prominent writing role with the team, stuff from Deadly Alliance to Armageddon actually made sense and wasn't retconned every other game.
 

Tarkatan Trash

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Agreed.
This may be one of those instances where they need to give Vogel a prominent writing role again, or maybe even hire on Tobias as a consultant on this stuff. I had hopes for MK11's story after the MKX comics because it felt like Kittelsen did a decent job with them, but it seems like somewhere between the MKX comics and the MK11 story mode ideas clashed and it became more of a mess (imo).
At least when Vogel had a more prominent writing role with the team, stuff from Deadly Alliance to Armageddon actually made sense and wasn't retconned every other game.
I'm taking it a step further.

Restrict writing roles NRS employees who were involved in MK between 1992 and 1999. They know more about Mortal Kombat than anyone else because of seniority alone. That fake Sindel we have in MK11 is proof that the MK11 writers have IQs that can be measured with my own two hands.
 
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