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I also took that as a subtle way of NRS trying to justify Cassie's victory over an Elder God empowered by the Jinsei. His powers were nullified by hers, so that fight, in the end, was ability vs ability. Shinnok is much more of a "wizard" type than warrior, he's like max lvl cap of magic and high but not so much kombat. Besides, his amulet makes him OP if he can use his powers.
About interactions, he knows Shinnok like anybody does, but there's no answer if they crossed paths in the rivalry sense. He shows knowledge, but remember, he's evil incarnate, certainly Shao Kahn knows him, specially if he was ever a god. Old timeline they certainly did, Shao Kahn was "subordinate" of him.
Well, been discussing with some people in other platforms too, Shao Kahn's origins are still up to debate. Is he a immortal? Yes. God? Deception points to a yes, but still up to debate. Geras tells Fujin that gods are immortals, so I really think Shao Kahn being Outworld's former god, more than an advisor, isn't far fetched. But maybe an immortal advisor only. Still, no canon answer.
I don't think we're done, story wise.
There were some things that screamed more story. I mean, why do we see Shao Kahn and Sindel enslaving the Cage family? Why are Liu Kang's legs broken, but we don't see Shao Kahn killing him? Why in the Shang Tsung ending we have Raiden saying that Chaosrealm and Orderealm are yet to be conquered? If it truly was the end with nothing more coming, wouldn't it make more sense to have Raiden say that Shang Tsung owns everything in order to bring a perfect closure for his evil ending?
Maybe it's the Havik fanboy talking within me, but Ö I really think that Shang's ending is canon, and we're going to see a Havik/Hotaru team-up (the unlikeliest of allies) spearheading an alliance with the KP2 MK characters as they take the fight to Shang Tsung and the Earthrealm forces who are probably now raised in worshipping Shang Tsung as their God and Master.
I think that NRS wrote the Shang Tsung finale purposefully like that to work as a cliffhanger, in case WB greenlights another story add-on if sales of Aftermath were satisfactory. Liu Kang's ending obviously cannot work like that since it's 100% a reboot.
We'll see. I think we have more things to come, definitely in terms of characters as also in terms of story. MK11's official twitter said they're taking a short break, which means there's more stuff to come later on.
Tarkatan Trash may know more about that than I do.
As for the new timeline post-Aftermath, I never meant to imply MK1 exactly, but ratherSpoiler:
That could also just be referring to more DLC characters and not necessarily more DLC story.Originally Posted by Nickolaidas
Boon even called the Aftermath story a sort of epilogue and final conclusion to MK11's story in the more recent Game Informer interview.
I just don't think that they will do more story stuff because:
1) story mode takes up too many resources, and it looks like Aftermath was done at the same time as the MK11 main story.
2) Boon specifically used the words "final conclusion" in that interview.
3) Liu Kang's ending opens it up for MK12 (or MK0) to start fresh and do a hard reset, but not necessarily be an MK9 / Trilogy 2.0 all over again.
Am I saying that more story stuff can't come? No, but I think it's more than likely not coming.
Would I love to see more story content? Yes.
My personal guess is that IF anything else comes post-aftermath it'll just be the other datamined characters, though.
I just don't feel as optimistic about more story stuff coming to MK11
MK Mythologies website. Good thing that site is still accessible via web.archive.org, or it would obviously be lost to the sands of time. Of course, I used to remember this by heart, because before Bi-Han and Kuai Liang's names were revealed (and for that matter before Noob Saibot's identity was revealed), I was calling them Sub-Zero V and Sub-Zero VI respectively.
EDIT: Good thing I have a copy of the PS1 version of Mythologies, since I bought a used copy of it at a retro gaming store a few years ago, and it turns out the same text that stated that Bi-Han and Kuai Liang's father was a 4th generation Lin Kuei is in the manual as well (certain details on the website are missing from the manual though, possibly due to space constraints).
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Yeah, I was a bit off.
Don't know why I thought it was 8 generations, but yeah, 5 generations makes me think it'll be even less likely to have a Sub-Zero THAT far backSpoiler:
NRS has retconned some stuff in the past few games, but it seems like the stuff that they've kept in tact, so far (for the most part), is Mythologies.
This is my reasoning for why I think that MK12 or MK0 or whatever it'll be calledSpoiler:
I don't cont myself much of a writer, but I did a game with some friends and think I could do better than the writers at NRS. At least for explaining things in a next game which would deal with Fire God Liu Kang re-doing history.
Check it out: https://www.deviantart.com/matserban...tory-834036963
Of course, I initially hated it as much asuntil the YouTube channel The Fighter's Den (which I highly recommend for fighting game fans, mainly because of the commentary provided) uploaded the following video about that.Spoiler:
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Also, there's no mention of how old is their ancestor who makes a cameo in MKX, and apparently he fought for Earthrealm, not like the crooked Lin Kuei before Kuai Liang's leadership.
I imagine he could be the one who returns and was contemporary to GKL, and Cage also had previous generation of champions. During Kung Jin's chapter, we can see GKL, a female warrior, Cage's ancestor, Sub-Zero's ancestor, and then Liu Kang and Kung Lao who were dead. If we ever go back centuries in the past, that could be the very founder of the Lin Kuei.
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Cage's ancestor seems like a WWI/WWII American soldier. He has, however, older European ancestors. I wonder how Kenshi's ancestor got blind, it can't be Shang Tsung again. Sub-Zero's ancestor looks so badass.
If we consider it was 500 years before MK1, that would be by the end of the XV century. So, Jax's ancestor could be as I said, an African warrior, Cage could absolutely be someone from the nowadays Italian region - would be fun, since a famous person with the Cage (fake) surname is Nicholas Cage -, but could also be anybody from South Europe or Northern Africa, a Japanese Shirai Ryu, that Chinese Lin Kuei, and returning Immortals/Long life span characters.
Actually this sounds extremely enjoyable.
Just a quick hello - hope you guys are all well and have been keeping safe. I haven't been playing MK11 (though I did complete story mode) so I don't post here much these days, but just wanted to show my face.
Again, 5 generations of cryomancers makes it only 125 years that the cryomancers go back, and they'd have to retcon it (which apparently NRS has no issue doing).
Either way, while I wouldn't mind playing as an ancestor of those characters this finicky fanbase would have a shit-fit if the next game didn't have Bi-Han / Kuai as Sub-Zero, Hanzo as Scorpion, Sonya and Johnny Cage.
Hell, as it is, people are had a shit-fit and "Wah'ed" over Cassie and Jacqui being in MKX and MK11, and that's even WITH their parents being on the same rosters.
I think most characters had their ancestry explored and that could have a reason. Even Shang Tsung has a brother. There are several past Nightwolves, Edenians live a lot, other races too. If they go to XV century, these people will get disappointed, and NRS won't even have to abdicate from a new Scorpion.
New leak for DLC
It seems more believable than most leaks. I don't think 11's going to have any more guests, other than possibly Ash if he's still in the pipeline after this. I can't see them going past 4 or 5 guests at max because having 8 guest fighters in total is way too much even for NRS. I also don't see anyone from the base roster from MKX being DLC because NRS seems to be focusing on characters that have not been in a game in a while. Havik, and Lei Mei seems more believable as DLC than Quan Chi and Takeda coming back.
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