Mortal Kombat 11 General Discussion Media Thread

No hdd?
DDR4 seems dirt cheap now.
As for screen depends on what you want to do with the rig. If it's gaming then it's lowest response time and high refresh rate. I use a double setup and still run out from work space.

Someone recommended I get another m.2 to run a Raid 0 setup, but I've been looking into it and it seems way over my head. So I'll probably just grab an SSD for games and storage
 
500gb will be nowhere near enough. Just for reference DOOM is around 65gb initially. That's just 1 game. MK11 also is a massive hog. I'm sitting at more than 2tb (3 drives) and almost full.
Probably should take a look at water cooling too.
 
It isn't so much as denial, as simply looking at the big picture. For example, how do you explain MULTIPLE sales during those 2 best selling months? Be it Amazon or Steam. They had multiple sales during that time. Hell even websites that resell keys, were doing crazy sales, and they don't usually do that with games that are "best selling". AT BEST. You could see 10% discount. But MK11 was going all the way to 35%.

Second. NPD sources sales data from consumers and retailers. MK11 physical sales were whooping 50% lower than MKX in UK alone. Of course, people tried to explain with "well, it is a digital distribution age. Who buys physical copies at this point?". Yeah, that is understandable, but a whooping 50%? Really?

So all that is left is digital sales. Sure NPD could sourced the data from digital stores, like Steam or PS4. But then here is my problem. (EDIT) Steam spy showed that MK11 didn't do as hot as MKX. Not even close. Sales didn't do so hot on Switch either (due being inferior version graphically). Best reported sales were on PS4 and XBOX alone. So those two consoles had to make up for sales lost on PC.

Again, sales on PC don't account for the majority when it comes to WB games, and given WB's terrible reputation for their ports on PC, I can see why. I was never negating that it sold horribly on PC, given its issues.

They had to make up their sales during the time of censorship controversy that definitely hurt the sales (and don't bring me the bullshit that it was just an echo chamber and vocal minority. It would have been if certain dev kept his f$cking mouth shut). Devs targeting specific groups of fans also didn't help them. Youtube demonitizing all videos that show MK11 violence, forcing people to go through additional annoying editing just to get their videos monetized.

I am not saying that those two months couldn't happen. I am just saying that nor me, nor Xenon take what we are being told for granted. We do research. and simply... shit doesn't match up. Cause you know... after getting screwed over multiple times and losing both money and time, it made me want to actually check what is happening instead of listening to empty bullshit promises. Cause there is nothing sacred no anyway. Official dev word means, less than a dog shit.

Also can you guarantee me that NPD wasn't bought off? Can you right here, right now GUARANTEE me in this current day of Gaming Industry that NPD wasn't bough off or WB didn't adjust their numbers? Especially right now, as we have companies like Disney being caught red handed, lying about their Captain Marvel success and that phantom 1 billion it made?

Unless you can guarantee / prove that the NPD was bought off, though, this all just comes off as a conspiracy theory, and that's what I take issue with.


And... at the end of the day. Just by looking at MK11 now. It is a month away from dying on PC. (just like I predicted. Right on time.) Switch... that one is even worse quality wise. Just RIP for that one. Low number of participants in MK11 tournaments. Even in EVO they there overshadowed by less known games. Low viewership on Twitch.
Sigh... I sound like broken record, but point is. The only thing that MK11 achieved was the biggest number of concurrent players on PC. And that is because the game managed to launch DAY 1, unlike MKX. But after that, everything went down.

Yeah, I could see it dying out on PC due to the issues, but on the 2 top selling consoles (X1 and PS4) it still seems to be doing well.

Here is my final theory. MK11 did great during the first 2 months, but it didn't meet WB's expectations. Biggest launch ever in MK franchise? Yeah, sure. Couldn't even muster half of the hype MKX had. And didn't even break MKX records. MKX DESTROYED the sales. We are talking the hype that put GTA5 long awaited PC release to second place in sales. Freaking GTA5.
But they didn't want to acknowledge the controversy about censorship, and show that it managed to affect it's sales. So they did the same thing as Disney did with Captain Marvel. Inflated the numbers to silence people's criticism. It was basically the equivalent of shouting LALALALA over an angry mob.

The MKX sales numbers also came from the NPD at the time, no?

And no. I don't do this shit, because OH NO FROST TURNED INTO UTTER GARBAGE. Please. I may have waited fro Frost for 8 freaking years, but doesn't mean that she makes entire MK for me. Hell, if they didn't include her in the game I wouldn't have said anything. At best "well sucks", and in this instance I would been happier if I didn't get to see the garbage she became.
Nor PC version being complete shit. That one wasn't even surprising for me. I was 99% sure, that it will be as broken as previous ones as well. It was other people that were vowing that everything will be fine and telling me to try the game. Nah. I dodged the bullet.

I just simply look at everything through magnifying glass and don't believe a single fookin word. Be it NRS, nor any other company. Gaming industry is a multi billion war machine. Especially in current conditions where games were being infected with politics and all companies tried to justify that and hide any negative feedback towards those practices. Hell we have now Casinos in Basketball games that are rated for E. Nothing is sacred. So NPD doesn't really have much credibility, especially when the game was published by WB, which is a multi billion dollar company itself. They could have easily inflated numbers or bought off NPD or Sony (as Sony is going political itself. With all recent censorships and non existent guidelines, that force devs to go through time wasting review processes without knowing if their game matches the guidelines or not.) or even Microsoft (that declared that they also support social politics agendas and that XBOX isn't a platform for Free Speech (literally said that)) to report different numbers.

The end result being. I can't prove that my theory is correct, as I don't have absolute evidence, but you can't tell me or anyone else who is being skeptical, that this is just a denial, then we have multiple cases that don't match to what is being said and multiple legitimate reasons to doubt the credibility of anyone reporting anything at this point.

Until we have reports to the contrary that the NPD is fudging numbers, though, it's just that: a theory.
Without any proof it's all just speculation.
So, yeah, I'll still respectfully disagree, but until there's concrete proof (especially in this day in age of people making up their own news / reality), it does come off as just that: a theory.
I'd be 100% agreeing with you if there was solid proof, much like how I was appalled at the terrible work ethics / "crunch" going on at NRS during the time of MK9 thru Injustice 2.

But hey. I don't need to play or like the garbage that is called MK11, to enjoy MK itself. Maybe even the new MK movie will good? (doubt it, as it is done by the guy who did Furious 7 and went stupid with SAW, but hey I am open to be surprised).

I feel like video games movies (in general) have let me down so many times in the past, that with the stuff going on with this one I'm just like "Well, I hope it will be good."
 
Again, sales on PC don't account for the majority when it comes to WB games, and given WB's terrible reputation for their ports on PC, I can see why. I was never negating that it sold horribly on PC, given its issues.



Unless you can guarantee / prove that the NPD was bought off, though, this all just comes off as a conspiracy theory, and that's what I take issue with.




Yeah, I could see it dying out on PC due to the issues, but on the 2 top selling consoles (X1 and PS4) it still seems to be doing well.



The MKX sales numbers also came from the NPD at the time, no?



Until we have reports to the contrary that the NPD is fudging numbers, though, it's just that: a theory.
Without any proof it's all just speculation.
So, yeah, I'll still respectfully disagree, but until there's concrete proof (especially in this day in age of people making up their own news / reality), it does come off as just that: a theory.
I'd be 100% agreeing with you if there was solid proof, much like how I was appalled at the terrible work ethics / "crunch" going on at NRS during the time of MK9 thru Injustice 2.



I feel like video games movies (in general) have let me down so many times in the past, that with the stuff going on with this one I'm just like "Well, I hope it will be good."

So basically you said, what I said already. It is a theory. But a theory supported by proper observation and a lot of things not matching together. So in this case it is a simple impasse. You can't prove that numbers haven't been changed, due current rampant corruption in gaming industry (entertainment industry overall) and I can't prove it that they are lying/altered numbers. That's it.

As for MKX sales NPD. Yeah. Fair point. But here is the thing. You can adjust numbers, when they don't match your expectations or if it doesn't meet your certain agenda. Mortal Kombat X was released in April 7 of 2015. A year before what it is considered as an official start of the SJW era. I mean MKX was already a soft entry into SJW waters, with pandering with diversity and bringing up relationships. But it all really started with Injustice 2, when it was leaked that artists were forced to censor the female character gear items (with some of them to this day having a blatant paint over, to hide cleavage for some reason). Past 2016, we had multiple movies and games pushing in political correct values, which led to criticism and lowered sales as people didn't like their things twisted, being told what is right and wrong or how to think. So companies began adjusting platforms and numbers to hide the fact that SJW pandering causes more loss and damage, than profits.

Example 1. Infamous Gillete commercials which virtue signaled, by stereotyping males and painting them in negative light. That resulted in video receiving a high amount of negative comments and dislikes. Gillete began deleting negative reviews and Youtube began altering dislike number. When that failed, dislikes and comments were disabled. Gillete lost 8 billion dollars, and while CEO tried to shake that off as "worth it", they immediately abandoned virtue signaling as Gillete's profits spiraled even further down. Now they are covering "Local Heroes"

Example 2. Captain Marvel. Actress Brie Larson insulted a number of fans, stating that movie is not for them based on their skin color and gender. Movie also received negative reviews for being less then average. Numerous pictures portrayed empty cinema halls. Disney reportedly bought out multiple cinema halls to falsely inflate numbers. Rotten Tomatoes also altered their system to help Captain Marvel fight negative feedback. At the end the movie reported to have earned a whooping 1 billion dollars. Execs at Marvel/Disney and their SJW announced a victory. Weeks later thanks to Insider turns out that Disney has inflated multiple movie profit numbers. Some of them were inflated by billions. Captain Marvel also doesn't have a sequel announced, despite claims that it was a success. Latest Insider info from Disney reported that Captain Marvel is being abandoned/has no faith from execs.

This kind of behavior was seen in MK11.
Game gets announced close to a release date. No proper hype building. First female characters get revealed and some of the fans are displeased by censorship. Even so it remains an echo room issue. That is until Art Director in NRS announces that they have no regrets with disappointing their fans and they are going for more "mature and respectful" approach. That starts the fires. That devolves to NRS devs telling who are the real fans or not.
Launch date. Numerous people can't play properly due most of the game being locked behind Online mode. Server issues. PC gets screwed over. First two weeks issues on all platforms. Krypt, micro transactions, terrible story mode reception. Steam and Metacritic reviews tank. People show disgust for forced political agenda. Game goes on multiple sales during the period of two months alone. WB reports huge success. Claim that game had the biggest launch and has been the most profitable game in NRS history, despite controversy, server issues and backlash for Krypt and another set of lies.

Later it is found out that NRS has been treating their own contractors like sub humans. NRS launched an investigation on NRS. To this day, we don't know what was the conclusion of that investigation.

In the meantime MKX rode on a pure hype train. No controversies, no insults from devs, nobody being fookin retarded. We had arguments in this forum, but nobody was split on MK being amazing. All forums were busy with excitement. Everyone HERE was excited for it. Chop Suey commercial (the one with people running in the street) was met with applause. We spent insane amount of hours just guessing whose shoe belonged to who. And you want to tell me that MK11 had anything close to that shit? Yah, sure. First game to split fanbase like that. Literally friends jumping on friends. One side loves it, another side hates its guts and you had SJW running around fueling the fires. So yeah. MKX and MK11 were completely two different reactions.
 
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The SJW shit is definitely mad annoying. They're acting high and mighty when only a few games ago one of their characters was literally in Playboy (and it's still one of the best renders of Mileena to date)

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Though to be fair the supporters of the lame shit are way more numerous than I thought. On TYM they're overwhelmingly in support of covering the females up and saying shit like "Not every woman should be beautiful". It's gross.


But it doesn't stop me from enjoying MK11 at all. This is the most covered up Kitana has ever been, but MK11 is the first time I've ever given a shit about the character. They nailed her aesthetics and are unapologetically making her a Chun-Li clone. And I love it.
 
The SJW shit is definitely mad annoying. They're acting high and mighty when only a few games ago one of their characters was literally in Playboy (and it's still one of the best renders of Mileena to date)

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Though to be fair the supporters of the lame shit are way more numerous than I thought. On TYM they're overwhelmingly in support of covering the females up and saying shit like "Not every woman should be beautiful". It's gross.


But it doesn't stop me from enjoying MK11 at all. This is the most covered up Kitana has ever been, but MK11 is the first time I've ever given a shit about the character. They nailed her aesthetics and are unapologetically making her a Chun-Li clone. And I love it.

Ironically, I was against MK9 outfits as well. But here is the thing. I am me. I am just one of the people that plays the game. Perfect solution for that? Gives options.

You want more revealing, sexy outfits? Here you go, sir! You want more practical outfits? Here you go, sir!

But this entire SJW fest just decided to rip out the options, and push their agenda. No wonder they are hated. I don't think anyone would give two shits about political messages, if we didn't lose our options with them as well.
 
Ironically, I was against MK9 outfits as well. But here is the thing. I am me. I am just one of the people that plays the game. Perfect solution for that? Gives options.

You want more revealing, sexy outfits? Here you go, sir! You want more practical outfits? Here you go, sir!

But this entire SJW fest just decided to rip out the options, and push their agenda. No wonder they are hated. I don't think anyone would give two shits about political messages, if we didn't lose our options with them as well.

Cassie's outfits in MK11 are hilarious. They're literally the parodies that we used to come up with in MKX. She wears a head to toe covered up spacesuit
 
The SJW shit is definitely mad annoying. They're acting high and mighty when only a few games ago one of their characters was literally in Playboy (and it's still one of the best renders of Mileena to date)

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You GROSS MISANDRIST SEXIST PIG! GO BACK TO THE 90S, AT ONCE!!!!!

Kinda funny how we had that, and now we have Ed Boon going to Playboy talking about "realistic fabric rendering" :lol: PLAYBOY :rofl: My sides are in orbit ever since that happened.

I couldn't care less about Kitana, but at least Liu and her finally got closure after...What? 25 years?

Jade however, just like Kotal, I wanted Shao Kahn to snap their necks every time they appeared on screen. You had one job...
 
But it doesn't stop me from enjoying MK11 at all. This is the most covered up Kitana has ever been, but MK11 is the first time I've ever given a shit about the character. They nailed her aesthetics and are unapologetically making her a Chun-Li clone. And I love it.

Pretty much this, for me.
Despite the females being more covered up, MK11 is the first time I give a shit for characters like Sonya, Kitana and Jade and some of the other male Klassic characters too, like Shang Tsung, Liu Kang and Johnny Cage.
Bullshit Kronika reset button aside, Raiden fusing himself with Liu Kang to become even more powerful was a cool concept.
Yes, I’ve had certain parts of the story that I didn’t like, but on the other hand they also actually fleshed out Baraka more too, for example.
 
Mileena is the only character who should be dressing like a slut, because, well...she IS a slut!

I don't have an issue with skimpy female costumes, but like [MENTION=16568]Misucra[/MENTION] previously said, give people options, especially in MK11 where kustomization is a HUGE mode the game that goes hand-in-hand with the Krypt, ToT, AI Battles and Kombat League for unlocking skins.
Why is this an issue in a game like MK11 where each character has about 6 skins (with another 7 shaders for each), masks and other gear?
 
For me it ain't the fact that females are covered that ruins the game. I mean, shit. When I saw females in MKX, I was celebrating, cause Sonya and Kitana got cool outfits (Kitana's default outfit in MKX is my favorite out of all Kitana's outfits). But it is the very act of censorship and lies that pissed me off. Especially treating people like idiots. So buying or even playing MK11 was off the table for me.

As for story. Eh. It is the same situation of "It's something". Nah I am done with that shit. That excuse caused so much regression in tech and games. Always just be happy that you got something. Nah. My standards were raised with MK Deception/Armageddon Konquest mode. THAT WAS exploring the world. Giving more life to the entire MK universe. Different languages, visiting different realms. Some vestiges of experiencing different cultures. Hell I remember how awesome it was for me to visit the Orderrealm. Seeing how different realms operated.

Baraka and his tribe getting more depth was a nice touch and added to the cinematic movie experience, EXCEPT THE LAST F%CKIN TIME I CHECKED, MORTAL KOMBAT 11 IS SUPPOSED TO BE A VIDEO GAME. You know. The thing you play? Not watch.

MK9 got an exception pass, cause it was nostalgia and reboot that was supposed to be the last shot at MK. But after that, anything less than Konquest mode, isn't worth any praise in my books at least. I am not asking them to make Skyrim, but I did hope that they expand the world, show that people like Shao kahn aren't just brutes, but also tacticians or even politicians. MKX comics scratched the surface of that nicely, and that's why it was so good. One of the best parts, wasn't the Kamidogu arc, but the actual civil war that depicted how tribes look outside of Shao Kahn's Throne room.

Anyway. That is all just elephant dreams now. MK is now a celebrity deathmatch and we can forget any lasting lore, as they just make shit as they go.
 
What do you mean by that?
Are you referring to guests?

Yeah.

Here is my thing about them. It isn't just my "puritan" side talking. Hell I know I even said that I would love to play Spawn. But.

The only reason why these guest characters are brought in, is because they want casual players that have no interest in MK, to start playing, cause they can finally play a Terminator or Spawn. Quick cash grab and very short term planning.

It also shows how little confidence they have in their own creation, if they start bringing alien material to it. I mean one or two guest characters, wouldn't hurt once in a while. It can be even fun. Like Tekken 7 that has couple of characters from other games or tv shows. But if your guest characters are used to steal spotlight and push native characters to a secondary priority... that's it. No faith. It is too much at that point.
 
I agree with you whole-hardedly regarding that I wish that the amount of guests were reduced, and I would prefer more of the MK characters as DLC over the guests.
That said, the bigger kick to the to the crotch (IMO) is guests showing up in SPmodes like TOT and Klassic Towers when I didn't buy the KP and / or have no interest in them.
At least in MKX if I didn't buy the character, then I never had them appear in my game at all.
When it comes to MK, it kinda breaks the immersion for me to be playing against the MK roster and then Terminator, Joker or Spawn show up.
My overall disdain for guests is 1 of the few areas where I actually see eye to eye with [MENTION=12345]Tarkatan Trash[/MENTION].
Unfortunately, though, MK9 opened up the flood gates for guests with Freddy and Kratos, with Freddy supposedly being the highest selling DLC character, so then NRS gets the idea that "Ooh, people want more guests, then."
 
I agree with you whole-hardedly regarding that I wish that the amount of guests were reduced, and I would prefer more of the MK characters as DLC over the guests.
That said, the bigger kick to the to the crotch (IMO) is guests showing up in SPmodes like TOT and Klassic Towers when I didn't buy the KP and / or have no interest in them.
At least in MKX if I didn't buy the character, then I never had them appear in my game at all.
When it comes to MK, it kinda breaks the immersion for me to be playing against the MK roster and then Terminator, Joker or Spawn show up.
My overall disdain for guests is 1 of the few areas where I actually see eye to eye with [MENTION=12345]Tarkatan Trash[/MENTION].
Unfortunately, though, MK9 opened up the flood gates for guests with Freddy and Kratos, with Freddy supposedly being the highest selling DLC character, so then NRS gets the idea that "Ooh, people want more guests, then."

Yah. That's another thing. Pushing guest characters in your face. Ok. You want to fight or play as Terminator? Be my guest. I am happy with the rich world of MK characters. But noooo. They want you to buy that shit. Hence why they force that onto you. "Look how cool it is! Don't you wanna buy it! Ah? Ah?"

It is really disgusting that even Offline is tainted by them.
 
Yeah, I can easily see myself using up all of my skip tokens when it comes to the guests for this game.

As for the rest of the DLC, I'm really just hoping that Sindel, Sheeva (yes, I'm willing to give those 2 another chance) and Fujin get an awesome DLC revamp like Shang Tsung and Nightwolf did in MK11.
Was never previously a Shang Tsung fan, but he's easily become 1 of my mains in MK11.
Probably will end up being Fujin and Shang Tsung as my 2 mains by the time that the DLC is all said and done.
 
Well, about that guest character vs Fujin battle [MENTION=5028]Commander[/MENTION] and I have been fighting on the latter's behalf?

The worst case scenario would be THIS.

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See, this is Fujin....from Final Fantasy VIII. Not the Fujin we want, but rather the Fujin WB likely wants to push on us.

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Well, about that guest character vs Fujin battle [MENTION=5028]Commander[/MENTION] and I have been fighting on the latter's behalf?

The worst case scenario would be THIS.

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See, this is Fujin....from Final Fantasy VIII. Not the Fujin we want, but rather the Fujin WB likely wants to push on us.

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No way. It is anime. Western world despises anything anime related.
 
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