Mortal Kombat 11 General Discussion Media Thread

I rarely ever take PC into account when it comes to sales, unless it's a PC exclusive thing.
People said Dishonored 2 also sold poorly, but it only sold 500K copies on PC because the optimization for it was shit on PC. Consoles ended up selling the other 2.5 million copies.

Also, "lack of anyone caring" is a pretty vague statement, considering that those who "don't care" are probably some of the disgruntled Mileena and Reptile fanbase vocal minority.
Aside from Ketchup and Mustard being absent, MK11 will have the vast majority of the MK3 playable roster and all of the MK1 roster, consisting of 19 out of 27 klassic characters, and there isn't a damn day that doesn't go by that someone doesn't bombard Boon with "Terminator" or "Spawn" questions / demands.

I don't disagree that it may be doing poorly on PC and Switch, due to the issues that those have had, but it's probably doing much better on PS4 and X1 considering that it was the best selling game for 2 months in a row.

To be honest that best selling shit, sounds a bit too suspicious. Best selling yet had sale right after the release. Yeaaaah. You don't do sales if you're selling good.

As for lack of anyone caring, I am talking the lifeblood of fighting games. The viewership. Both tournaments and general viewership. That one is incredibly low. Mileena, Reptile or other character requesters aren't even considered. I am sure they are happily spamming Ed Boon's twitter with requests.

As for consoles, yeah can't say much. Though few of the friends that still play it, did mention that they get more and more of the same people to fight on PS4. So it is either netcode or numbers are also dropping.

Point is, PC got done dirty again. I mean it was already obvious, but now if MK12 will ever come out, and people will buy it on PC, they definitely have loose screws.
 
So the NPD report, which covered the videogames market has a reason to lie?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/np...one-2-total-war-3-rage2-4-switch-1-hw.124179/

Regarding Tournaments, maybe, dunno. I haven't followed NRS game Tournaments since MKX, to be fair.

Regarding consoles, most of the people I know IRL who have got the game are still enjoying it and are loving Kombat League and looking forward to the rest of the DLC charterers. Personally, I don't care for KL or guests, but I'm also still having fun with the other SP modes (which is all that I usually play). Out of 16 people a good 12 are still enjoying it. Yeah, I also have some friends that are waiting for the Komplete Edition of MK11 to eventually drop because they don't care for the whole "Season Pass" model of DLC, but those aren't as many in comparison to the others.

I agree 100% with you that PC got done dirty and so did Switch (and I can empathize), from what I've seen. The Switch version looks like the PS3 / 360 version of MKX that was "leaked" when the rumors of MKX also being for that generation of consoles were running rampant.
At this point, I don't know why people are still buying WB / NRS games on PC? Didn't 1 of the Batman games also have issues with it on PC, as well?
 
So the NPD report, which covered the videogames market has a reason to lie?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/np...one-2-total-war-3-rage2-4-switch-1-hw.124179/

Regarding Tournaments, maybe, dunno. I haven't followed NRS game Tournaments since MKX, to be fair.

Regarding consoles, most of the people I know IRL who have got the game are still enjoying it and are loving Kombat League and looking forward to the rest of the DLC charterers. Personally, I don't care for KL or guests, but I'm also still having fun with the other SP modes (which is all that I usually play). Out of 16 people a good 12 are still enjoying it. Yeah, I also have some friends that are waiting for the Komplete Edition of MK11 to eventually drop because they don't care for the whole "Season Pass" model of DLC, but those aren't as many in comparison to the others.

I agree 100% with you that PC got done dirty and so did Switch (and I can empathize), from what I've seen. The Switch version looks like the PS3 / 360 version of MKX that was "leaked" when the rumors of MKX also being for that generation of consoles were running rampant.
At this point, I don't know why people are still buying WB / NRS games on PC? Didn't 1 of the Batman games also have issues with it on PC, as well?

I will be honest. After multiple reveals of how corps change their data to make themselves look better (Latest being Disney where they presumably started making up bullshit "billions" in profits reports) I am very skeptical. But again that's just a cynic in me speaking. I have no proof of that, but it is indeed pretty strange how during the first months they had multiple sales, yet emphasized the point, that they had biggest launch ever. Why would you have sales, if you have amazing record sales numbers. Very strange, but eh. This is conspiracy theory territory.

As for PC, yeah. Batman Arkham Knight was a colossal failure. They even removed the game from the store temporarily, just because of how bad it was, and then they put the game back, the problems STILL persisted.
Yeah at one point, I have zero respect for people that are whining about PC Port, when they were presented, not by one, not by two, but by THREE examples of shit PC ports and STILL PRE ORDERED the damn thing, but on other hand. Both WB and NRS can f$ck themselves for offering PC option and shitting on people who gave them both amazing sales and support.
 
In all honesty, the gameplay is such a departure from MK9/MKX that I can understand why people haven't played it as much. Maybe it's just me, but the combat feels like a combination of MK9 & the 3D Era of MK games with the "kreate-a-combo" system feeling more strategic yet restricted. Also, the living tower descriptions and such are dry compared to MK9/MKX. Personally, I still see people on my friends list playing it a lot, especially my brother who I see everytime I turn the PS4 on. Him having the game is the main reason I haven't really played it very much.
 
I still love the game. I'm playing other shit right now, and working on building a pc, so I haven't touched it in a few weeks. But I'm always thinking about it when I get home. I miss Kabal, really hope his third variation is the Custom one I use that way I can actually enjoy KL.

I also want to go through the story again at some point. Which isn't something I ever said about MKX. I know it gets some hate, but I think MK11's story was amazing, especially compared to what came before it. Liu Kang being the protagonist again was so refreshing, and Tarkatans actually being shown with emotions had Kittlesten's name written all over it. Loved it
 
Btw... Kotal Kahn got butchered as a char. I would say it is even worse than it was for me with Frost. Frost was never established as interesting character since her new reveal in MKX comics. She was always shown as an idiot with zero personality and constant whining.

But Kotal Kahn. While the char was one of those "He was always there", he was at least a legit interesting char in MKX comics, but then in MKX got butchered into some weakling that turns tail at every corner and gets beaten in a random duel. MK11 was pretty much death sentence for him.

Kotal Kuck should've been put out of his misery like he was in his own trailer. It's too bad that President Shao J. Kahn didn't Make Outworld Great Again and only broke Kuckold Kahn's back. Should've snapped his neck instead like he did to Kung Lao in MK9.

At least Rambo did Kuckold some justice. That fatality was brutal!
 
As for lack of anyone caring, I am talking the lifeblood of fighting games. The viewership.

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When all the DLC characters are released for this game, I'd want character assists of characters from previous MK games. The following are characters I'd like and an idea of their moves when they're doing their assists.

* Tanya (Has her default MKXL outfit/render. Uses her teleport to exit the screen.):
Move 1- Enhanced Fire Blast
Move 2- Split Kick
Move 3- Cannon Drill (Enhanced/Pop-Up Version)
Move 4- Tonfa Swipe Combo

* Shinnok (Has his MKXL default outfit/render.)
Move 1- Hell Sparks
Move 2- Amulet Strike
Move 3- Charging Shoulder
Move 4- Mystical Combo

* Quan Chi (Has his MKXL default outfit/render.)
Move 1- Skull
Move 2- Ground Burst
Move 3- Sky Drop
Move 4- Sinister Combo

* Mileena (Has her default MKXL outfit/render. Uses her teleport by going under the ground and disappearing like in her Teleport Kick.)
Move 1- Tele-Kick
Move 2- Ball Roll
Move 3- Enhanced Low Sai
Move 4- Over The Top Combo

* Triborg (Has Smoke's moves.)
Move 1- Fade Port
Move 2- Smoke Away
Move 3- Trident
Move 4- Any of his MKXL combos.

* Tremor (Has his MKXL outfit/render.)
Move 1- Rolling Stone
Move 2- Enhanced Ground Pulse
Move 3- Enhanced Rock Toss
Move 4- Any of his MKL combos.

* Reptile (Has his default MKXL outfit/render.)
Move 1- Claw Swipe
Move 2- Reptilean Dash
Move 3- Acid Spit
Move 4- Any of his MKXL combos.

* Bo Rai Cho (Has his MKXL outfit/render.)
Move 1- Belly Bash
Move 2- Sumo Stomp
Move 3- Tumble Kicks
Move 4- Any of his MKXL combos.

* Ermac (Has his default MKXL outfit/render.)
Move 1- Soul Burst
Move 2- Soul Charge
Move 3- Soul Ball
Move 4- Any of his MKXL combos.

* Kenshi (Has his default MKXL outfit/render.)
Move 1- Soul Push
Move 2- Demon Assault
Move 3- Rising Sword
Move 4- Any of his MKXL combos.

* Goro (Has his MKXL outfit/render.)
Move 1- Stomp
Move 2- Punch Walk
Move 3- Shokan Bolt
Move 4- Any of his MKXK combos.

* Ferra/Torr (Has their MKXL outfits/renders.)
Move 1- Tuck N Charge
Move 2- Boss Toss
Move 3- Ferra Toss
Move 4- Any of their MKXL combos.

* Takeda (Has his default MKXL outfit/render.)
Move 1- Enhanced Fist Flurry
Move 2- Whip Trip
Move 3- Whip Strike
Move 4- Any of his MKXL combos.

* Kung Jin (Has his MKXL outfit/render.)
Move 1- Cartwheel Drop
Move 2- Enhanced Straight Arrow
Move 3- Lunge Kick
Move 4- Enhanced Bow Swing
 
That website is built on lies buddy.

Mmm-Hmm.
So, the NPD is also lying and fudging numbers and MK11 wasn't the best selling game for 2 months straight?
Damn, I must have just been dreaming that shit up, then.
I get that not everyone on here is happy with the game, whether it be Frost's remake, the roster in general or PC issues, but good lord that's some ridiculous denial.
 
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Mmm-Hmm.
So, the NPD is also lying and fudging numbers and MK11 wasn't the best selling game for 2 months straight?
Damn, I must have just been dreaming that shit up, then.
I get that not everyone on here is happy with the game, whether it be Frost's remake, the roster in general or PC issues, but good lord that's some ridiculous denial.

IGN also came out with a 9.0 before the game was even released.
NPD is unsourced, there are no numbers. It deals with NA only. Is it just 2 months now, I thought it was "international best seller of the year" according to them? It says it counts PC digital but Steam doesn't release its figures, we only have APIs doing estimates. We can only guess the situation on PS but it's been looking like this the entire time: http://gamstat.com/games/

Game bombed internationally. Being banned in Ukraine and Asia didn't help it either. You gotta be more specific. If they'd say "it did extremely well for first 2 months in NA on consoles!" then sure, can't argue with that. But it didn't, and you fell for it.

What does Frost has to do with anything :lol:
 
Mmm-Hmm.
So, the NPD is also lying and fudging numbers and MK11 wasn't the best selling game for 2 months straight?
Damn, I must have just been dreaming that shit up, then.
I get that not everyone on here is happy with the game, whether it be Frost's remake, the roster in general or PC issues, but good lord that's some ridiculous denial.

It isn't so much as denial, as simply looking at the big picture. For example, how do you explain MULTIPLE sales during those 2 best selling months? Be it Amazon or Steam. They had multiple sales during that time. Hell even websites that resell keys, were doing crazy sales, and they don't usually do that with games that are "best selling". AT BEST. You could see 10% discount. But MK11 was going all the way to 35%.

Second. NPD sources sales data from consumers and retailers. MK11 physical sales were whooping 50% lower than MKX in UK alone. Of course, people tried to explain with "well, it is a digital distribution age. Who buys physical copies at this point?". Yeah, that is understandable, but a whooping 50%? Really?

So all that is left is digital sales. Sure NPD could sourced the data from digital stores, like Steam or PS4. But then here is my problem. (EDIT) Steam spy showed that MK11 didn't do as hot as MKX. Not even close. Sales didn't do so hot on Switch either (due being inferior version graphically). Best reported sales were on PS4 and XBOX alone. So those two consoles had to make up for sales lost on PC.

They had to make up their sales during the time of censorship controversy that definitely hurt the sales (and don't bring me the bullshit that it was just an echo chamber and vocal minority. It would have been if certain dev kept his f$cking mouth shut). Devs targeting specific groups of fans also didn't help them. Youtube demonitizing all videos that show MK11 violence, forcing people to go through additional annoying editing just to get their videos monetized.

I am not saying that those two months couldn't happen. I am just saying that nor me, nor Xenon take what we are being told for granted. We do research. and simply... shit doesn't match up. Cause you know... after getting screwed over multiple times and losing both money and time, it made me want to actually check what is happening instead of listening to empty bullshit promises. Cause there is nothing sacred no anyway. Official dev word means, less than a dog shit.

Also can you guarantee me that NPD wasn't bought off? Can you right here, right now GUARANTEE me in this current day of Gaming Industry that NPD wasn't bough off or WB didn't adjust their numbers? Especially right now, as we have companies like Disney being caught red handed, lying about their Captain Marvel success and that phantom 1 billion it made?

And... at the end of the day. Just by looking at MK11 now. It is a month away from dying on PC. (just like I predicted. Right on time.) Switch... that one is even worse quality wise. Just RIP for that one. Low number of participants in MK11 tournaments. Even in EVO they there overshadowed by less known games. Low viewership on Twitch.
Sigh... I sound like broken record, but point is. The only thing that MK11 achieved was the biggest number of concurrent players on PC. And that is because the game managed to launch DAY 1, unlike MKX. But after that, everything went down.

Here is my final theory. MK11 did great during the first 2 months, but it didn't meet WB's expectations. Biggest launch ever in MK franchise? Yeah, sure. Couldn't even muster half of the hype MKX had. And didn't even break MKX records. MKX DESTROYED the sales. We are talking the hype that put GTA5 long awaited PC release to second place in sales. Freaking GTA5.
But they didn't want to acknowledge the controversy about censorship, and show that it managed to affect it's sales. So they did the same thing as Disney did with Captain Marvel. Inflated the numbers to silence people's criticism. It was basically the equivalent of shouting LALALALA over an angry mob.

And no. I don't do this shit, because OH NO FROST TURNED INTO UTTER GARBAGE. Please. I may have waited fro Frost for 8 freaking years, but doesn't mean that she makes entire MK for me. Hell, if they didn't include her in the game I wouldn't have said anything. At best "well sucks", and in this instance I would been happier if I didn't get to see the garbage she became.
Nor PC version being complete shit. That one wasn't even surprising for me. I was 99% sure, that it will be as broken as previous ones as well. It was other people that were vowing that everything will be fine and telling me to try the game. Nah. I dodged the bullet.

I just simply look at everything through magnifying glass and don't believe a single fookin word. Be it NRS, nor any other company. Gaming industry is a multi billion war machine. Especially in current conditions where games were being infected with politics and all companies tried to justify that and hide any negative feedback towards those practices. Hell we have now Casinos in Basketball games that are rated for E. Nothing is sacred. So NPD doesn't really have much credibility, especially when the game was published by WB, which is a multi billion dollar company itself. They could have easily inflated numbers or bought off NPD or Sony (as Sony is going political itself. With all recent censorships and non existent guidelines, that force devs to go through time wasting review processes without knowing if their game matches the guidelines or not.) or even Microsoft (that declared that they also support social politics agendas and that XBOX isn't a platform for Free Speech (literally said that)) to report different numbers.

The end result being. I can't prove that my theory is correct, as I don't have absolute evidence, but you can't tell me or anyone else who is being skeptical, that this is just a denial, then we have multiple cases that don't match to what is being said and multiple legitimate reasons to doubt the credibility of anyone reporting anything at this point.

But hey. I don't need to play or like the garbage that is called MK11, to enjoy MK itself. Maybe even the new MK movie will good? (doubt it, as it is done by the guy who did Furious 7 and went stupid with SAW, but hey I am open to be surprised).
 
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Game has Spawn in it. Stop crying and appreciate how sick this shit is
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Oh cool. You're right. To be honest I legit like Spawn. Would be fun to try it onlin... oh wait. It only comes next year, and the game will be completely dead by then. At least on PC.
 
Oh cool. You're right. To be honest I legit like Spawn. Would be fun to try it onlin... oh wait. It only comes next year, and the game will be completely dead by then. At least on PC.

I'm building a pc right now, I'll be online next year if you want a good buttfukking
 
No hdd?
DDR4 seems dirt cheap now.
As for screen depends on what you want to do with the rig. If it's gaming then it's lowest response time and high refresh rate. I use a double setup and still run out from work space.
 
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