I wish they just stop polluting mortal kombat with their shitty guests but they casuals have to ruin it
I feel like guest add variety to the roster. With MK characters, there is so much you can do after the original MK characters. Someone like Robocop will sell better than Dairou because he is not a very well known or liked character. After MK3, you have Tanya, Reiko, Fujin, Shinnok, Quan Chi, Kenshi, Frost, Li Mei, Bao Rai Cho, and Havik for characters that have vocal and popular fans. I guess Onaga and Hotaru could work as DLC, but I don't think they have enough supporters on their side for them to be in the game.
All the complaints on forums about guest characters are clearly wrong because they sell better than MK characters. Being that we are getting 6 DLC characters in KP1 I don't mind a guest character or two as long as they aren't stupid.
Any characters that I want I’ll buy separately, as I refuse to reward NRS with a KP purchase for guest characters that I don’t give 2 shits for and will never use.
This is 1 of the few things that I agree with @Tarkatan Trash on.
Saying that guest characters give "variety" to the game is just saying, that base game is failing with its designs.
"Well this native character is not popular or widely liked, so a guest will do a better job as they are widely known". That's an excuse. Anything that follows trends, dies out pretty quickly. If one wants to stay, that certain one has to make their own trend. If they wanted to they could make any character popular with enough effort and time. And not use cheap cop out, by using some action flick character.
Well to be honest, with how plain most of the character designs look in MK11, I guess guests, could add some variety.
NRS doesn't use trendy characters though. They use icons. If they wanted to follow trends, Shaggy would be in MK11. But the characters they chose are timeless classics. Predator's best movie came out thirty years ago, but he's still a science fiction/ action icon.
It seems like fighting game fans, in general, are always 50/50 on guest fighters. You have SC, Tekken and Smash Bros fans that hate guest characters, but fans that also love them.
Mortal Kombat only started this in 2011 with MK9 by introducing Kratos and Freddie Krueger. Before that, the game didn't need any guests. The name alone spelt popularity. It stood no problem, on its own two legs. You say the name and everyone and their mom knows Mortal Kombat. So why bring the freaking action chars? They are popular! They are icons! Timeless classics! Yeah, sounds like that one game that literally was the sole reason for video game rating system and caused massive controversy in 90s. I just can't put my finger on the name... I think it was something with fighting? Death? Oh yeah. Mortal Kombat! Fighting game classic that stood on its own for over 2 decades. The game that made every arcade owner happy.
I think if they wanted to make action/horror movie characters fight, they can just make their own Super Smash style game, instead of riding on a game, that is supposed to have its own identity.
But I know that won't happen. They will introduce at least 3 new guest chars and waste those spots, instead of just bringing native characters and fleshing out its own Lore. Maybe that's why they make their stories, so "Hollywood cliche"? Hmmm. They consider their own game lore nothing, but a cheap hollywood flick. Well, their game, their property, their creation.
I am just waiting for Frost. They give a female cryomancer, that isn't made out of Ice Blocks, a mummy, a zombie or a robot (I mean, making her a cyborg would be really f$cking cruel, but I don't think they will do that. They f$cked me enough.), and I will be fine.
Maybe this MK11 will be the first one I can enjoy in peace? If I won't have everything unlocked from the start, game will work no issue day one, and Frost will at least look decent and won't be some retarded ice construct/zombie/robot, I will ignore all the guest chars and just enjoy the game. Third time's a charm, after all. Or so they say.
Your argument would hold more weight if Guest Characters weren't exclusively dlc bonuses (barring Kratos).
DLC characters practically have no lore, and add nothing to the story. People on here argue if Triborg was even canon for Christ's sake.
MK doesn't need guests to survive, they're just fun bonuses. Crossovers are some of the most exciting events in media. Alien causing a stone chestburster to fly out of Tremor or Erron Black writing "Ugly Mofo" on a bullet for Predator is just delicious.
You guys who complain about guest characters are an absolute minority. They will come and pump up those sale numbers two fold. NRS/WB doesn't give a shit about your puritan Mortal Kombat, go play previous games if that's such a problem.
I didn't buy any DLC characters for MKX as, although I thought Triborg looked cool, I'd more or less stopped playing (as much as before, anyway) by then, and I won't buy DLC characters who don't have alt. skins, which those (and MK9's) didn't. I did buy a few of the skin packs I liked, but that was it. However, I will say that I commend NRS for revamping Tanya, bringing Bo back (to test the waters), and Triborg was a very cool characters, and personally it was great to see Cyber Smoke back in a game. I have no real complaints with the DLC character choices they made, but none apart from Triborg ever really tempted me to buy/play them, and like you I will never buy kombat packs because I don't want guest characters in my game.
Now, with MK 11 things look different - guest characters are now apparently getting alt. skins and full gear customization, just like base roster characters. This is great news, and so if a character like Fujin, Havik or Smoke appears as DLC then I'd be happy to buy them individually. However, as with MKX I won't buy kombat packs as there will simply be too much content there that I don't want, such as all the guests and stuff like Brazil skins (and we know we're getting more of these because Kano was revealed wearing one of them).
The good thing about DLC is that you get to vote with your wallet, as they say, which is something I've always done. I never buy stuff for the sake of it, or to 'support' a company - if I think they're doing something I don't like, I veto it by not wasting my money, and just focus on the interesting stuff I do like. Other than sending them shit on Twitter (which I don't use) I'm not sure how else you're supposed to get this point across to a developer.
I look forward to KP1 being revealed - next month, I'd assume - but I'd be surprised if more than two of those six characters interested me.
They revealed Fighter Pack 1 for Injustice 2 a week before launch. I imagine they'll do something similar to MK11. Revealing it as late as possible is the smartest thing to do business wise since you'll sucker more impatient people into buying who don't know what they're getting.
I'll laugh my head off if JC is going to be one of the main characters, continuing the "boring white American family" subplot. In fact I'd love to see that just to read some internet gangster go REEEEE again MK keeping true to its nature, which is causing controversy....
It's not really controversial, it's just boring. Nobody wants to see Cassie hug her mom.