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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    Apologizing in advance for the crappy quality.These are all legit combos that can be performed in matches.Theyre all variants of the same basic combo.I have a handfull of others Ill be upping soon that have more variety in moves.

    43% 11 hit no enhanced or xray
    FJ1,B1,1,4,Force Lift,FJ4,Force Port,Force Push
    http://youtu.be/1BG62mIW5SY

    47% 12 hit 1ex no xray
    FJ1,B1,1,4,Telelift,FJ4,Force Port,Force Push
    http://youtu.be/6umhvUCwhZw

    49% 12 hits 2ex no xray
    FJ1,B1,1,4,Telelift,FJ4,Force Port,Telepush
    http://youtu.be/E4S08z1LPno

    58% 12 hits no ex 1 xray
    FJ1,B1,1,4,Force lift,FJ4,Force Port,Xray
    http://youtu.be/-8kfQpbG_W8

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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    Since you're the "curator' of this Ermac thread, I would appreciate some basic strategies and practical combos? Please edit your original post to include such, for searching through all the pages can get exceedingly annoying. Here's my contribution:

    Ermac's basic nature is the zone game. Force Push (has faster recovery than lift) to maintain spacing, keep those rushdown characters out. When playing a zoning character, general strategy is to be very wary of the teleport, you can even attempt to bait it by throwing out 1 or 2 force pushes then just blocking. Once they pass your "force push" comfortability, you can easily punish jump ins, blocked attacks, and whiffed moves with a lift to j.fp, teleport, dash, 2, 2, push(or xray) for decent damage. Remember not to get overzealous, Ermac by nature really IS a zoning character, you have to play the patience game. All you REALLY need for Ermac is good fundamentals, for getting a lift on them will deal at the least 25% damage(I've found the combo I listed is very easy to pull off consistently, you can go for big damage but risk dropping the combo)

    There's a bit of my basic Mac knowledge

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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Notorious J.I.Z. View Post
    Since you're the "curator' of this Ermac thread, I would appreciate some basic strategies and practical combos? Please edit your original post to include such, for searching through all the pages can get exceedingly annoying. Here's my contribution:

    Ermac's basic nature is the zone game. Force Push (has faster recovery than lift) to maintain spacing, keep those rushdown characters out. When playing a zoning character, general strategy is to be very wary of the teleport, you can even attempt to bait it by throwing out 1 or 2 force pushes then just blocking. Once they pass your "force push" comfortability, you can easily punish jump ins, blocked attacks, and whiffed moves with a lift to j.fp, teleport, dash, 2, 2, push(or xray) for decent damage. Remember not to get overzealous, Ermac by nature really IS a zoning character, you have to play the patience game. All you REALLY need for Ermac is good fundamentals, for getting a lift on them will deal at the least 25% damage(I've found the combo I listed is very easy to pull off consistently, you can go for big damage but risk dropping the combo)

    There's a bit of my basic Mac knowledge
    Exactly my thoughts

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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    Also, more details on the special moves such as how punishable they are, good for ending or starting combos, and the enhanced versions as well. If I were you I would look over the jade thread and take for of a layout like that. W/ much more detail than what you have now.

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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    Gaaaah... Ermac... Is... Too... Awesome...!

    Can't... Resist... The... Awesomeness...!

    Aaaarrrrggghhh... Must... Not... Play... Grrrr...!

    That's it, I'm turning MK on right now and playing as Ermac.



    Please forgive my off-topicness. Ignore this post if you want.

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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Notorious J.I.Z. View Post
    Since you're the "curator' of this Ermac thread, I would appreciate some basic strategies and practical combos? Please edit your original post to include such, for searching through all the pages can get exceedingly annoying. Here's my contribution:
    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenJanders View Post
    Also, more details on the special moves such as how punishable they are, good for ending or starting combos, and the enhanced versions as well. If I were you I would look over the jade thread and take for of a layout like that. W/ much more detail than what you have now.
    Yup, this thread needs a lot of work. Wish I could help you guys but I havent played Ermac long enough to give out any strats.

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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    Never liked too much Ermac before this game, and before having the game, I was feeling he was a bit .... overrated.

    Anyway, once I dedicated some time in training mode with him, I changed my mind, the guy is a hit machine, pretty versatile , with some serious deadly combos ..... he can put a hell of pressure in attack area, and resist and counter-attack very well against almost all type of opponent.

    I think Ermac is one of the best "baiter" character in the game, maybe among top 10.
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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    Quote Originally Posted by bmsirhc View Post
    Yup, this thread needs a lot of work. Wish I could help you guys but I havent played Ermac long enough to give out any strats.
    A LOT of work...

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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    Quote Originally Posted by yautjared View Post
    I think Ermac is one of the best "baiter" character in the game, maybe among top 10.
    Ditto, I actually DO think he's the 2nd best punisher... aside from Raiden, his 'OOOHIMGONNAKILLYAMOOOM!" move is just so fast haha

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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    @BrokenJanders
    Ok, ok, try dont destroy my posts with words, i worked to make it, i accept suggestions but dont turn this into "hey this suck add more info man", ill add it tomorrow, today i had to study for chemistry 101, so easy people, i didnt have some many time. Tomorrow ill add all new info like tactics, tips and special explanations, im a specialist with ermac
    You have to understand that i have a life outsied this forums, i cannot stay here 5 making a post.
    Ill add a more tomorrow, and during the week.
    And i dont have a problem with you being new in the forum but you dont even have 20 posts, so you cannot complain because you dont like mine.

    Help= yes i accept it
    Suggestions= yes too
    Complaints= only if they are reasonable and are told in a good way

    And thanx for the new info anf tips H20 and Notorious, ill take a look to that
    Last edited by Fox17; 05-13-2011 at 03:12 PM.
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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    @Fox to be honest I don't care if you're the best Mac player ever to grace the game, they REALLY need character sub forums. Now you have last say on what info you want displayed, I put a perfectly good basic strategy up, all you had to do was copy and paste and you were good to go. The way it's setup, if someone visits the site for Ermac info, this topic will be the first he sees and it's in 1 person's hands, opposed to making a sub forum where they can clearly read the topic of the discussion and quickly/easily find the info they're looking for. The way it is now, if YOU don't put it there, they're going to have to go through all these pages of discussion to MAYBE find what they're looking for. I've put this in the suggestions page, and all we got are stickies still... It's lame.

    On another note, basic frame data by Lomyn of TYM:
    Spoiler:
    Ermac Frame Data - Startup

    Neutral Attacks

    FP 10
    BP 12
    FK 12
    BK 20

    b+BK 15 (Sweep)
    d+BP 13 (Uppercut)

    d+FP 6
    d+FK 7
    d+BK 12

    j.P 7 (Note: These values are assuming closest possible distance)
    j.K 7

    Command Normals

    f+FP 18
    b+FP 21
    f+BP 21
    b+BP (fastest) 19
    b+BP (max) 51

    b+FK 12
    f+FK 12
    f+BK 14
    u+BK 25

    Neutral Throw 10
    Forward Throw 10

    Airblast 19
    Jumping Airblast 10

    Teleport Punch: 33
    j. Teleport Punch: 29
    Enh. Teleport Punch: 33

    Force Lift 13
    Enh. Force Lift 13

    Force Push 14
    Enh. Force Push 14

    Falling Unblockable 60 (fastest)

    X-ray 23
    Last edited by Notorious J.I.Z.; 05-13-2011 at 08:31 PM. Reason: Edited to give credit of source

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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    Thanx for the attacks damage info but i dont think its necessary. Ill add more info tomorrow night, take my word.

    As for special moves explanation, i dont know, i think people is smart enough to know what do they do, what ill do is put tips of when are more useful and what strategies you can do with them.

    Any info you have for me ill take a look and add it if its necessary thanx.

    And when i said stop complaining and wasnt saying to you dont worry, your posts are useful.
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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Scythe View Post
    Gaaaah... Ermac... Is... Too... Awesome...!

    Can't... Resist... The... Awesomeness...!

    Aaaarrrrggghhh... Must... Not... Play... Grrrr...!

    That's it, I'm turning MK on right now and playing as Ermac.



    Please forgive my off-topicness. Ignore this post if you want.
    Dont worry your post is more useful than some there are over you.
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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Craig Dobson View Post
    "i have many combos,but my players only use one"
    HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH SO TRUE! Everytime I play against Ermac is the same scrub combo over and over again. I cant wait till he gets nerfed and this combo is useless. +rep for you!

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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    Quote Originally Posted by natedoggcata View Post
    HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH SO TRUE! Everytime I play against Ermac is the same scrub combo over and over again. I cant wait till he gets nerfed and this combo is useless. +rep for you!
    If the player is so scrub, quit falling for the setup, I direct you to http://www.trmk.org/forums/showthrea...arning-to-Lose Mac needs no nerfing, my main punishment combo is a 25%er, that's not that impressive, but I can damn sure execute it 100% of the time, so don't slip up or I'll getcha haha

    EDIT: Btw, when you get a chance add combo:

    Force lift, FJ+1, Teleport, dash, 2,2 Push/Xray - non-x is 25%, x is somewhere around 36%-42% they're not damaging combos but they're GREAT for punishment and can be done comfortably from just under jump distance. Can also add fj+1, f+1, 1 > lift etc. If you're feelin froggy and like jump ins.

    Also, a good string to chip and test blockers(gives you decent advantage over block stun) is 1, 2 (pause) 1, 2 (pause). This gives you time to be sure they are blocking and you can either go in w/ a throw or mix up w/ b+3, 4 or maybe just poke them w/ a d+3. Sometimes it's nice to keep them standing because it allows you to play mind games w/ them.

    Also when you get a chance, maybe adding notable normals such as u+3(maybe 4, I been playing w/ Brak lately) being his Medium attack which is considered overhead, even though it looks low.
    Last edited by Notorious J.I.Z.; 05-13-2011 at 05:29 PM.

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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    His combos only have one set up that is actually worth using. *Insert combo starter*Force Lift,JumpKick,Teleport*Insert combo ender*

    Out of curiosity, what are people doing online with him?

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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    Quote Originally Posted by MKBlade View Post
    His combos only have one set up that is actually worth using. *Insert combo starter*Force Lift,JumpKick,Teleport*Insert combo ender*

    Out of curiosity, what are people doing online with him?
    It takes some lag adjustment but Ive hit all the combos Ive posted multiple times online.Ermacs easy to use.

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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    I use the combos/tactics I listed above alot. If I get a crossup/jump in I'll do lift, b+1, 2, f+1, teleport, push for 39%... all doable online from my limited 2-3 day experience because of an unspoken catastrophe haha

    EDIT:
    http://testyourmight.com/forum/showt...php?4311-Ermac <-- Tom Brady insight into Ermac, EXTREMELY good info here
    Last edited by Notorious J.I.Z.; 05-13-2011 at 08:36 PM. Reason: so I don't double post >P

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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    im on my phone now, ill add tomorrow when i come home, ill see the video and see what can i use.

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    Re: Ermac Thread - "We are Many, You are but One!"

    How was I 'destroying' the posts? If you are going to make an official character thread, it should be detailed :/ Coming from a user of Ermac too

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