Critical-Limit
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Noob's Black hole resets are more than enough to win without zoning, plus, his shadow upknee helps A LOT with pressure. I don't get what you mean by "raped upclose". Sheeva is too slow. And alright zoning game? Her fireball is too damn slow and easily jumped over. What saves sheeva are her low starters and overheads.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, But those black hole resets aren't guaranteed. It's a 50/50 trap. And that's assuming your opponent doesn't know how to block high >.>.
I'm not saying Noob is garbage. but I can sorta see how with sheeva's new buffs how she can be alot more scary now. More so than noob saibot. Noob has too many strong counters against him, while with sheeva's buffs on paper, she should be able to handle almost all matchups alright now.
Jade is bottom crap tier and she counters noob saibot.
Yeah, I know man. Sheeva is getting decent. Just that. But I don't think she is above Noob or some other characters just because she has some high damage 3 hit combos, 50/50 telestomps and armor on enhanced moves. She needs more than that. :/
yeah that's why she still isn't a top tier. Noob however... just like you said.. Zoning... he needs more than that.
@voncroy, I still think Noobs zoning game is better than kabals.... in a noob vs Kabal fight. But vs everyone else, Kabal might have an upperhand considering he can full combo punish on reaction when he anti airs you with his gas mask blast move. Noob just knocks you down and sets you up for another shadow.
This wasn't a Sheeva vs noobsaibot argument just so you guys know...
I thought we were regarding their placings which doesn't always regard in them fighting eachother. It's even dangerous to block against sheeva? I remember someone telling me there are times it's best to take damage than to block against some of her attacks because she hurts you MORE if you don't eat it. I don't know what the trick is maybe you sheeva mains know what i'm referring to.
Also... Jade moved down... cuz everyone else moved up it's simple really. Jade didn't get any useful buffs. like... not enough to jump her a tier. Infact alot of jades I've been talking to consider her nerfed.