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  • Cyber Sub-Zero is resurrected as fully human

    30 34.88%
  • Noob gets a split personallity or is redeemed

    23 26.74%
  • Oldtime Sub-Zero "crosses over" into the new one

    5 5.81%
  • A new Sub-Zero is introduced

    10 11.63%
  • No human Sub-Zero in MK10 and sequels

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    Quote Originally Posted by vRuh View Post
    How if Frost turned on Sub-Zero in her MK:DA ending ...
    And why would she give a ****? Noob is Bi Han. She wouldn't care. Kuai Lang is the Sub-Zero she has ties to. And also in the alternate timeline she may not turn on Kuai Lang.

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    Re: Human Sub-Zero in MK10. How would you handle his return?

    Quote Originally Posted by vRuh View Post
    How if Frost turned on Sub-Zero in her MK:DA ending ...
    This is a new timeline, anything can happen just like people suggest Noob Saibot gets split in half.


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    Re: Human Sub-Zero in MK10. How would you handle his return?

    Oh, I have another option! Somebody use your powers in an amulet, so that your past self is aware of the future, and stops Boon from creating Cyber SubZero!

    Wait...! Damn...

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    Re: Human Sub-Zero in MK10. How would you handle his return?

    Quote Originally Posted by CF7 View Post
    Oh, I have another option! Somebody use your powers in an amulet, so that your past self is aware of the future, and stops Boon from creating Cyber SubZero!

    Wait...! Damn...
    I like this scenario the best, but unfortunately I don't have a Delorean Time Machine to go back in time.
    If I did, I'd try to convince ED Boon otherwise about CSZ.


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    There are certain Classic things that you don't don't with, such as:

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    - Coca Cola original recipe
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    (Those are just a FEW examples)
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    Re: Human Sub-Zero in MK10. How would you handle his return?

    Quote Originally Posted by TaBB3rnackle92 View Post
    *Shrugs Shoulders*
    I hated Cyber Subzero at first, but then I ended up maining him.
    I love him now, and I don't really like Human Subzero now.
    I think it's a refreshing twist on an old character.
    Think about it, if they ever did that shit on Scorpion; people would've flipped shit.
    But you got HUMAN Subzero and CYBER Subzero.
    So why complain?
    We got two smokes and two subzeros in UMK3.. so why not MK10?
    Let me keep my new Main and give the fans their Human Subzero.
    Everyone wins.
    It can't just happen like that though because Cyber Subz is Sub-Zero so we have to find a way to get him back. That's whay we're discussin and I want Kuai Liang back as Sub-Zero so in order for that to happen Cyber Subz has got to go. I'm sorry that you like him, but I like Sub-Zero(Kuai Liang) too much to just let him go like that. He's been around for too long and honestly it's just disrespectful on NRS part to do this to his character.

    Scorpion would have got the exact same reaction Sub-Zero is getting because I tend to believe they are on the same popularity level and Sub-Zero has even won out on that on several occassions. I just want Kuai Liang back, it ain't right that he's a freakin cyborg right now.

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    Re: Human Sub-Zero in MK10. How would you handle his return?

    Quote Originally Posted by Subz 711 View Post
    It can't just happen like that though because Cyber Subz is Sub-Zero so we have to find a way to get him back. That's whay we're discussin and I want Kuai Liang back as Sub-Zero so in order for that to happen Cyber Subz has got to go. I'm sorry that you like him, but I like Sub-Zero(Kuai Liang) too much to just let him go like that. He's been around for too long and honestly it's just disrespectful on NRS part to do this to his character.

    Scorpion would have got the exact same reaction Sub-Zero is getting because I tend to believe they are on the same popularity level and Sub-Zero has even won out on that on several occassions. I just want Kuai Liang back, it ain't right that he's a freakin cyborg right now.
    Do you really think we can't have both?
    I mean, seriously.. We can't have both??
    You know we can have Cyber "magically transform" into human in Story mode..
    Then have BOTH selectable in modes other than Story.
    Like I said, We had both smokes and Subzeros in UMK3/Trilogy.
    And it didn't make sense.
    And Nope, people would've absolutely lost it if Scorpion turned Cyber.
    Cyber Subzero=Mild Shitstorm
    Cyber Scorpion=OMG NRS YOU ING ASS HOLES!!! Y U NO YOURSELVES?!!!

    So if Cyber Sub goes back to Human, we can have both playable for arcade ladder.
    You know... just like MK9.

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    Re: Human Sub-Zero in MK10. How would you handle his return?

    Quote Originally Posted by TaBB3rnackle92 View Post
    Do you really think we can't have both?
    I mean, seriously.. We can't have both??
    You know we can have Cyber "magically transform" into human in Story mode..
    Then have BOTH selectable in modes other than Story.
    Like I said, We had both smokes and Subzeros in UMK3/Trilogy.
    And it didn't make sense.
    And Nope, people would've absolutely lost it if Scorpion turned Cyber.
    Cyber Subzero=Mild Shitstorm
    Cyber Scorpion=OMG NRS YOU ING ASS HOLES!!! Y U NO YOURSELVES?!!!

    So if Cyber Sub goes back to Human, we can have both playable for arcade ladder.
    You know... just like MK9.
    You think this is a MILD sh**storm? Look on just about any MK site and this is almost always one of the leading topics. This is far from mild. I think people would be acting almost exactly the same way they are now if Scorpion would have got this treatment. The fact is he won't though because he's ed boon's favorite. Honestly I would love to watch Scorpion get sh** on in a game just for Ed Boon to prove that he would do it. He's done dark raiden, zombie kang, whored melina out, and now turned subz cyber. Let's see him up Scorpion for a change.

    They could put both in as well but they won't. Unless cyber subz has a reason to be there as a completely different character than Kuai Liang then it's a war til then either cyber subz or sub-zero will make it into the game, and I would choose Sub-Zero any day over Cyber Subz. It was a bad idea, and cyber subz has copied moves. I hope they fix the problem in the next game, and maybe they can somehow incorporate him being there as a different character than Kuai Liang, but if not then don't let the door hit you on the way out cyber subz.

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    Re: Human Sub-Zero in MK10. How would you handle his return?

    Quote Originally Posted by Subz 711 View Post
    You think this is a MILD sh**storm? Look on just about any MK site and this is almost always one of the leading topics. This is far from mild. I think people would be acting almost exactly the same way they are now if Scorpion would have got this treatment. The fact is he won't though because he's ed boon's favorite. Honestly I would love to watch Scorpion get sh** on in a game just for Ed Boon to prove that he would do it. He's done dark raiden, zombie kang, whored melina out, and now turned subz cyber. Let's see him up Scorpion for a change.

    They could put both in as well but they won't. Unless cyber subz has a reason to be there as a completely different character than Kuai Liang then it's a war til then either cyber subz or sub-zero will make it into the game, and I would choose Sub-Zero any day over Cyber Subz. It was a bad idea, and cyber subz has copied moves. I hope they fix the problem in the next game, and maybe they can somehow incorporate him being there as a different character than Kuai Liang, but if not then don't let the door hit you on the way out cyber subz.
    Well, the shitstorm was insane at first.
    Like, on the launch date because everyone already knew and had their assumptions about how he was going to suck.
    But it is now mild compared to how it was.
    As it is currently, you can still Ice clone and ground freeze it up with Human Sub..
    but the next MK?
    I see him still being Cyber.
    Like, how can The Cyber Initiative be reversed?
    Might as well turn Sektor and Cyrax human too
    Sub took Smoke's place as a cyber, and I like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaBB3rnackle92 View Post
    Well, the shitstorm was insane at first.
    Like, on the launch date because everyone already knew and had their assumptions about how he was going to suck.
    But it is now mild compared to how it was.
    As it is currently, you can still Ice clone and ground freeze it up with Human Sub..
    but the next MK?
    I see him still being Cyber.
    Like, how can The Cyber Initiative be reversed?
    Might as well turn Sektor and Cyrax human too
    Sub took Smoke's place as a cyber, and I like it
    Lol. You still see him being cyber? Really? With the crappy reactions he has got amongst a majority of the fanbase, and have you checked the leaderboards lately. Cyber Subz is in the twenties, and Sub-Zero is third. No way on Earth would they consider losing that big a part of their fanbase for a character who was not received well.

    I literally wouldn't return to MK if they decided to do that because over the years I've become a fan of Sub-Zero whereas I used to be a fan of Mortal Kombat. If Sub-Zero gets ed over again as bad as he did in this game, I will probably leave. NRS knows better than to do garbage like this, I understand Ed Boon likes to keep things fresh but when you alienate parts of your fan base you are begging for disaster.

    Also the difference between Sub-Zero and Sektor, Cyrax right now is Cyber Sub-Zero is dead, as in his body is useless.Sektor and Cyrax still have their bodies, whereas Sub-Zero is a soul right now. If they were to return the characters back to their normal human state in the next game, Sub-Zero ain't returning as a cyborg. I'm pretty sure I've read an interview too, where they didn't say cyber subz won't return, but I think it was Hector said they were non-commital to the character or something along those lines anyway, meaning they knew this would cause a sh**storm.

    I found it take it for what it's worth but supposedly before MK was even released and all of the info leaked Hector had this to say:

    "He confirmed Cyber Sub-Zero, and said that he will have an unique set of moves and story. He said also that the team is not certain about his inclusion in future MK games."
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    Re: Human Sub-Zero in MK10. How would you handle his return?

    Quote Originally Posted by Subz 711 View Post
    I understand Ed Boon likes to keep things fresh but when you alienate parts of your fan base you are begging for disaster.
    I agree with this statement 100%.
    I don't see Ed Boon and NRS alienating their fans, just for this controversy.
    If they do, they're being just as stupid as when they left Scorpion out of MK 3, in 1995.

    There are a LOT of people who wouldn't buy MK, if it didn't have Sub-Zero and Scorpion in it.
    I'm one of them.
    Like it or not, those 2 are the poster boys for MK.
    I traded in MK 3 for UMK 3, back in the day, on my Sega Genesis, because MK 3 didn't have Scorpion in it.
    I bought it again a few years ago, for collector's sake, but every time I fire up MK 3 on my Sega Genesis, it's the UMK 3 version.

    Sub-Zero NEEDS to return in HUMAN form, or atleast have a human compatible in the select screen, in order for NRS to avoid a shit storm in MK10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Araknyd_Commander View Post
    Sub-Zero NEEDS to return in HUMAN form, or atleast have a human compatible in the select screen, in order for NRS to avoid a shit storm in MK10.
    That's all I'm saying. Turn him human in Story if you must, but let me keep my new Main.
    I've got a pretty good CSZ and I want to play as him in future titles now.
    I guess I like CSZ so much is because Cyber Smoke was my 2nd favorite and they offed Cyber Smoke in the new MK

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaBB3rnackle92 View Post
    That's all I'm saying. Turn him human in Story if you must, but let me keep my new Main.
    That's the reason that I went about with the whole "Bi-Han being HUMAN Sub-Zero in MK10" route a few posts ago.
    Separating Bi-Han from Saibot would give us all 3 characters; Sub-Zero, Noob Saibot, and Cyber Sub-Zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Araknyd_Commander View Post
    That's the reason that I went about with the whole "Bi-Han being HUMAN Sub-Zero in MK10" route a few posts ago.
    Separating Bi-Han from Saibot would give us all 3 characters; Sub-Zero, Noob Saibot, and Cyber Sub-Zero.
    Seeing it that way makes it badass.
    Hell yeah, I'm on board with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Araknyd_Commander View Post
    That's the reason that I went about with the whole "Bi-Han being HUMAN Sub-Zero in MK10" route a few posts ago.
    Separating Bi-Han from Saibot would give us all 3 characters; Sub-Zero, Noob Saibot, and Cyber Sub-Zero.
    But we've been through this. Bi Han and Noob are the same person. It's not a symbiote, this isn't spiderman.

    The best route would be to go turning Kuai Liang back into a human and have the younger sister of both Bi Han and Kuai Liang turn out to be Cyber Subz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subz 711 View Post
    But we've been through this. Bi Han and Noob are the same person. It's not a symbiote, this isn't spiderman.

    The best route would be to go turning Kuai Liang back into a human and have the younger sister of both Bi Han and Kuai Liang turn out to be Cyber Subz.
    A girl Cyber Subzero?
    Maybe that's the best route for you, but not for me or anyone else.
    That's just.. idk what that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaBB3rnackle92 View Post
    A girl Cyber Subzero?
    Maybe that's the best route for you, but not for me or anyone else.
    That's just.. idk what that is.
    Dang, dude you got something against girls? I don't really see why it would matter seeing as they don't have their parts anymore anyway?lol

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    Dang, dude you got something against girls? I don't really see why it would matter seeing as they don't have their parts anymore anyway?lol
    Well let's turn Regular Sub, Noob, Scorpion, Ermac, and Rain into Girls while we are at it.
    Sorry, but A surprise sexchange isn't what I want for Cyber Sub. He's an underdog and A ing beast.
    He doesn't need the Mileena treatment with huge robot tits hanging out..
    You know? We already have Frost

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaBB3rnackle92 View Post
    Well let's turn Regular Sub, Noob, Scorpion, Ermac, and Rain into Girls while we are at it.
    Sorry, but A surprise sexchange isn't what I want for Cyber Sub. He's an underdog and A ing beast.
    He doesn't need the Mileena treatment with huge robot tits hanging out..
    You know? We already have Frost
    You don't understand, nothing would change about the appearance of the cyborg because it's already a cyborg. And newsflash theres already female versions of all of those characters if you want to go off of color base alone. Hell, Sub-Zero has a girl who resembles his powers color scheme everything, remember frost, Or what about Skarlet to Ermac, or Tanya to Scorpion. Don't be sexist dude, it could work out fine and they'd play all the same. My second favorite character is Jade so I don't know what the deal is. I'm saying that's a way to permanently keep cyber subz too. If you go the route of Kuai Liang staying him forever fans will get pissed. By MK3 though cyber subz would be gone because his story arc would have ended.

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    Re: Human Sub-Zero in MK10. How would you handle his return?

    Quote Originally Posted by Subz 711 View Post
    You don't understand, nothing would change about the appearance of the cyborg because it's already a cyborg. And newsflash theres already female versions of all of those characters if you want to go off of color base alone. Hell, Sub-Zero has a girl who resembles his powers color scheme everything, remember frost, Or what about Skarlet to Ermac, or Tanya to Scorpion. Don't be sexist dude, it could work out fine and they'd play all the same. My second favorite character is Jade so I don't know what the deal is. I'm saying that's a way to permanently keep cyber subz too. If you go the route of Kuai Liang staying him forever fans will get pissed. By MK3 though cyber subz would be gone because his story arc would have ended.
    I'm not being sexist by saying I don't want my main being a girl now.
    And I don't really like playing as females in MK, shoot me.. Idc.
    And if he was a girl, yes his appearance would change.
    Boone loves to make the chicks in MK look like PRON STARZ.. Which is weak, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subz 711 View Post
    But we've been through this. Bi Han and Noob are the same person. It's not a symbiote, this isn't spiderman.

    The best route would be to go turning Kuai Liang back into a human and have the younger sister of both Bi Han and Kuai Liang turn out to be Cyber Subz.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arakny_Commander
    Remember, the difference between Noob Saibot and Scorpion is that Noob Saibot is connected to the Brotherhood of Shadow.
    Scorpion resurrected as his formal self in an immortal body, whereas Noob Saibot was resurrected as part of the Brotherhood Of Shadow.
    Aside from being Quan Chi's , Scorpion has NO ties to the NetherRealm.

    Noob Saibot, on the other hand, IS tied to the Brotherhood Of Shadow, and could have an infused wraith spirit controlling / possessing him.
    How else could you explain the "Saibot" part of Noob Saibot???
    To me it seems VERY likely that Noob Saibot is possessed by a Brotherhood Of Shadow spirit.
    Remember, Quan Chi is an evil sorcerer who could have easily done some voodoo shit to Sub-Zero, in order to turn him into Noob Saibot.

    I could see a possible scenario in which Nightwolf kicks Noob Saibot into the Soulnado, freeing Noob Saibot of being possessed by the wraith, and he becomes Sub-Zero once again.
    It's no THAT far fetched.

    Think of it like the exorcist, where the girl goes back to being normal at the end.


    ^^
    Totally feasible.
    You don't know for sure if Bi-Han and Noob Saibot are just 1 person though, rather than a fusion of souls.
    When Ed Boon answered the Twitter question, he made it sound like Saibot was a separate entity.
    Bi-Han is part of the Brotherhood Of Shadow.
    You don't know WHAT Quan Chi did to turn him into Noob Saibot.

    For all we know, Bi-Han could be a fusion of 2 souls in 1 body; Bi-Han and the NetherRealm wraith (similar to Ermac with multiple souls in 1 body).

    That's the problem with his story, it's so vague and unexplained.
    Don't just assume that Noob Saibot is just 1 soul in 1 body, if you don't know for sure.
    Last edited by Commander; 09-14-2011 at 04:11 AM.

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