Good, but not overpowered. His electric fly is really punishable. There is a sweet spot where Raiden is a little safer, but most of the time his electric fly is punished by a full combo. People need to break the habit of punishing spinning aerial opponents with uppercut. Dash up and do a full combo. Condition your opponent to not carelessly throw out unsafe moves. Block and punish a few times and they should learn; if not, keep punishing.
Need I say more? His Electric Flying move is too powerful and too fast, with too little recovery time.
It does 10% damage in two hits. That move is just way too powerful. If someone blocks it and Raiden starts spinning in the air, there is a big gap between him and the opponent, meaning the blocked attack isn't punishable by uppercut. Has anyone tried this? Playing online before PSN down, and I haven't ran into any Raiden players. Hes so OP, its not even funny...
Your wrong. His move is the Fastest, yes. And no, I'm not getting hit by them at all, but rather I cannot punish him for doing it. What I myself like to do and what others have done to me is do the electric move as the opponent is standing up. Most of the time, they aren't ready for it and hence, get it. Others, they know its coming but they cannot block it, such as me.
I wasn't saying you personally fall for this. It's something that happens to a lot of players, I was speaking generally. And if you're struggling with an unsafe move, you obviously can't read your opponents well enough.Also, how do you figure I 'carelessly' jump in on him? I consider myself a moderately decent to good player. I don't do things randomly and I do know how to read my opponents.
A blocked string is a series of attacks you do that your opponent blocks. If he reversals right after with an EF and you get hit you either:"Getting hit by it after a blocked string? Do a safer string, block and punish." What does this even mean?
There is absolutely no reason to punish a spinning aerial opponent with an uppercut. It does 12%. Do a combo and get a free 30-50%. It makes absolutely no sense. I'm sorry but learn to punish better. And stop claiming that the move is harder to punish than other specials that act similarly; only difference is you need to dash, which is already the case for some specials.I've already said I block, he bounces back and spins. I uppercut and miss. I'd have to dash to him to string a combo, which shouldn't be the case. I -should- be able to uppercut him as punishment... just like the rest of the characters.
Edit; Also, how do you think any special is worth 10% damage? It's totally overpowered in EVERY sense...
Tom Brady confirmed that Raiden's fly is the fastest (non-enhanced) special.I'm not so sure Raidens fly is faster then Kabals dash
Tom Brady confirmed that Raiden's fly is the fastest (non-enhanced) special.
I'm sorry but you're doing it wrong if you can't punish the special. How can you see the move coming but not block it? Hold down the block button, not like it randomly mixes up mid or low.
I wasn't saying you personally fall for this. It's something that happens to a lot of players, I was speaking generally. And if you're struggling with an unsafe move, you obviously can't read your opponents well enough.
There is absolutely no reason to punish a spinning aerial opponent with an uppercut. It does 12%. Do a combo and get a free 30-50%. It makes absolutely no sense. I'm sorry but learn to punish better. And stop claiming that the move is harder to punish than other specials that act similarly; only difference is you need to dash, which is already the case for some specials.
10% scales quite a bit in a combo. The only really strong thing about EF is that it carries the opponent very far, letting Raiden get enemies into the corner easily.
Whose Tom Brady, when did he say this
Why does everybody say his Superman move is OP,Learn how to block people..........if anything its his teleport that is broken, does anybody agree? *crosses fingers*
I use raiden every time I play online, I dont know why you tihnk he's over powered. His electric fly is so fast probably because his projectile is so slow, and I mean that thing is slow. It can easily be blocked at almost any time unless there jumping at you close range. I find it useful to distract people however, I shoot his projectile all the way across the screen and there sitting there waiting to block it, and because his projectile is so slow you can actualy teleport right after it and show up behind your opponent right as there blocking it for a free combo. But for the most part his projectile is useless, the EX projectile where it shoots both directions however almost never misses making it a good match ending move. As far as the electric fly goes, if you block it, just like most teleport moves, he just sits there and spins in the air waiting to be killed, so its best used at the end of a combo, because you can send them into the corner where I think raiden can do the most damage. But if you want to complain about a move being too fast try playing against Kabal.
"Fast" refers to the start up frames of the move, not the traveling speed.
Because the move IS unsafe. If you're not punishing it, you're doing something completely wrong. No way around that.How can you say I am doing it wrong when you haven't seen me play? I'm starting to doubt your skill level and your knowledge of Raiden. -I- myself use Raiden pretty often, and I find my roommate (who happens to be on equal skill level as me) to be pretty easy when I am using Raiden, but when hes Raiden as well, we both have trouble...
How does it not work that way? If you can't react fast enough to a blocked EF with a dash, you're the problem, not the move.I don't fall for this move, I often block it. Sometimes I fail though, and it gets me. Regardless, you still have to DASH to be able to start up some sort of punishment for being blocked... but sometimes, if you aren't fast enough (Professionally fast) then you miss your chance because Raiden is already on the floor ready to do another attack... Its just cheap, admit it. Nothing you say makes sense, because it doesn't work that way... or how your making it out to be.
"Noobs" have no right to call a move OP. They have a lack of understanding of basic gameplay and do not understand how to properly play. Any one at a semi-skilled level should be able to dash in and do at least a combo string into a special. It's not difficult to double tap forward before you do a combo like you normally would.Thats a retarded excuse, no offense. Seriously, think about it. Do you expect a noob to understand this concept? This game was made noob-friendly, but when you have people that uses Raiden, and you are EXPECTED to be able to pull off a combo via dash, then thats broken. Simply put. Besides, even after the dash, Raiden's EF recovery time is RIDICULOUSLY SHORT, meaning you don't even get to pull the combo off... this I've seen and tried just now in fact with my roommate.
Similar meaning spinning aerial after it's blocked. The move does not have short recovery time, get that out of your head. The move is only easy to spam if you have a brain dead opponent who does not block and punish.And please do elaborate on the 'similar' special moves of characters that have the same concept as this EF move.
-Does it do the same amount of damage?
-Does it REQUIRE them to dash towards the bouncing opponent?
-Does it have SHORT AS HELL recovery time?
-Is it easy to SPAM?
Again get the thought out of your head that the move is safe by any means on block. The damage scales pretty badly in a combo. And a raw 10% for a very high risk is hardly broken.Thats ridiculous, how is he not overpowered. His special EF alone does that much damage... The damage percent of the move itself is too powerful, much less the recovery time and how it basically moves him and his opponent to the other side of the map...
Would you mind linking me to this radio recording or streaming/video? Thanks!