BBBLP
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You're right.
There should be a young for an alt, just not as his primary.
I was actually a little shocked that Shujinko didn't have his 4 or 5 conquest costumes as alts in Deception.
And thanks
Shujinko
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You're right.
There should be a young for an alt, just not as his primary.
I was actually a little shocked that Shujinko didn't have his 4 or 5 conquest costumes as alts in Deception.
And thanks
mkray41
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Me too; I remember hitting up all the different MK sites looking to see if his younger costumes were hidden in the game; I was disappointed
And thanks
No problem
Recon Number 54
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I wouldnt mind if Shujinko was mk9 DLC.
I was secretly hoping that Shujinko would have appeared in MK 2011 just because he was retroactively placed before the first tournament like Kenshi. And much like how Kenshi fits into the wuxia archetypes that MK pulls inspiration from by being the blind swordsman, Shujinko fits because he is the wandering martial art master.
Sometimes I think that the Shujinko fans should begin the campaign for him to become DLC, or at least be entitled to a roster spot in the next MK game.
Sometimes I think that the Shujinko fans should begin the campaign for him to become DLC, or at least be entitled to a roster spot in the next MK game.
Flying Jinko
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Sadly not many of us are there.
The only other fan I know from here other than myself is b,b,b,lp.Yeah it is a shame that there aren't a lot of fans for Shujinko.
Most people just lump onto the whole "he stole moves" and he is "old" and don't bother to look at the core concept of the character. I mean Shujinko was a character that legitimately wanted to be a hero, and that want to be a hero was his greatest strength and his greatest weakness. Sure he may have moves from other characters, but that isn't like he can't be altered in some way.
Like let's say he wanted to have the ice powers of Sub-Zero, but you didn't want him to throw the actual ice ball, you could replace that with him doing something like a Shaolin style stomp that causes ice energy to burst up from the ground a suspend the opponent in the air frozen.
The potential for Shujinko to become the resident "bada** grandpa" of MK is there.
Most people just lump onto the whole "he stole moves" and he is "old" and don't bother to look at the core concept of the character. I mean Shujinko was a character that legitimately wanted to be a hero, and that want to be a hero was his greatest strength and his greatest weakness. Sure he may have moves from other characters, but that isn't like he can't be altered in some way.
Like let's say he wanted to have the ice powers of Sub-Zero, but you didn't want him to throw the actual ice ball, you could replace that with him doing something like a Shaolin style stomp that causes ice energy to burst up from the ground a suspend the opponent in the air frozen.
The potential for Shujinko to become the resident "bada** grandpa" of MK is there.
Flying Jinko
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This version of Shujinko is my favorite.
Although he is somewhere around his late 40's to early 50's in this stage, it also depicts him as a battle hardened veteran.
His armor and overall look is quite good as well. I wish he returns as one of the main heroes of MK10, and this version of him will be the most apt, as I recall he got the invitation to participate in MK1 right after Nightwolf's soul cleansing.
Although he is somewhere around his late 40's to early 50's in this stage, it also depicts him as a battle hardened veteran.
His armor and overall look is quite good as well. I wish he returns as one of the main heroes of MK10, and this version of him will be the most apt, as I recall he got the invitation to participate in MK1 right after Nightwolf's soul cleansing.
JRfromGermany
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This version of Shujinko is my favorite.
Although he is somewhere around his late 40's to early 50's in this stage, it also depicts him as a battle hardened veteran.
His armor and overall look is quite good as well. I wish he returns as one of the main heroes of MK10, and this version of him will be the most apt, as I recall he got the invitation to participate in MK1 right after Nightwolf's soul cleansing.
You got my vote *thumpsup*, the older version should be his alt. outfit.
Armon24
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Sadly not many of us are there.
Wasn't I inkluded in this group.
Metal Overlord
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I really, really do love me some Shujinko
He could teach Liu Kang a thing or two
He could teach Liu Kang a thing or two
Flying Jinko
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Same here man, I REALLY want him in the next MK game, with both his old form and a little younger form with armor like I posted above. I think the only challenge with him for NRS is to make him more unique than just copying specials of other fighters. Im thinking a more improvised version of some of the specials is the way to go about it.
MKShao_Kahn
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I can't even express with words how much Shujinko and his story has added to the Mortal Kombat universe. MKD Konquest in general has created sort of mythology feel to MK, which I absolutely loved. It made the MK story much deeper than it was before. I guess people dislike Shujinko for two main reasons:
1) He uses the special moves of other characters. So what? Shujinko is a story-based character and I believe that in his exceptional storyline it is comprehensibly explained why he possesses abilities of other warriors. Still there may be an alternative, since the flow of time has been changed in the new timeline, Shujinko could have somehow found the true purpose of his quest, thus keeping his own and unique moves in the next games. Also I would like to note that some people play MK just for the gameplay, gore and blood. I can see why these peeps would dislike a character such as Shujinko.
2) He "replaced" Liu Kang. That's ironic, even though Shujinko became the main Earthrealm hero, Liu Kang still appeared in the game.
So it's not like the developers decided to erase his character from MK. It's not like for instance Jarek replacing Kano in MK4, this is different.
From time to time I still enjoy roaming through the realms as Shujinko, I don't think it will ever get old
1) He uses the special moves of other characters. So what? Shujinko is a story-based character and I believe that in his exceptional storyline it is comprehensibly explained why he possesses abilities of other warriors. Still there may be an alternative, since the flow of time has been changed in the new timeline, Shujinko could have somehow found the true purpose of his quest, thus keeping his own and unique moves in the next games. Also I would like to note that some people play MK just for the gameplay, gore and blood. I can see why these peeps would dislike a character such as Shujinko.
2) He "replaced" Liu Kang. That's ironic, even though Shujinko became the main Earthrealm hero, Liu Kang still appeared in the game.
So it's not like the developers decided to erase his character from MK. It's not like for instance Jarek replacing Kano in MK4, this is different.
From time to time I still enjoy roaming through the realms as Shujinko, I don't think it will ever get old
General Hasashi
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Which suddenly inspired me to do something: Dig up my copy of MK:A and make all of them as KAKs!
Anyway, about Shujinko, I have mixed opinions. Deception's konquest mode made me appreciate him...despite his entire life being wasted on a quest that resulted in the opposite of what he wanted, and him being an idiot. So on a scale of 1-10, I'd give him a 5. Just...neutral. I mean, if he shows up in a future game, that would be cool and I'd probably use him, but if not, I won't really mind that either.
Though the idea of the reboot timeline having Raiden fight him to stop him from freeing Onaga sounds pretty nice...
Flying Jinko
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Although the idea sounds cool, I don't think Shujinko's future will change in the altered timeline. Perhaps Raiden will ask him to help defend earthrealm from Shinnok, in which case he may put aside his quest temporarily. Damashi as Onaga will also favor this since the amulet is now with Shinnok and having Shinnok defeated will make it easier for Onaga to obtain it once Shujinko finds all the kamidogu.
Also I don't understand how Raiden can warn Shujinko this time round since Raiden doesn't have the ability to look into the future. Raiden's amulet guided him to ensure that Shao Kahn does not win in the future during armageddon and thats it. Armageddon itself has not been averted nor all the events that lead to it, including Shujinko finding the kamidogu and resurrecting the dragon king.
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I don't understand why people consider Shujinko idotic/stupid. It was not like he knowingly allowed himself to be deceived. Never in the konquest mode did anyone warn him or damashi gave away any hints that he was infact Onaga. Yes he was a bit naive and peaceful, allowing himself to be captured by Kano in outworld and not resisting his imprisonment at Seido when he was more than capable of doing so but it was not stupid move, but just an extrapolation of Shujinko as a character. It wasn't untill the last moment when Onaga revealed himself, did Shujinko know he was deceived. This could have happened to anyone and there was nothing Shujinko himself did that led him to be deceived. He cannot be blamed for it.
Also people saying Shujinko wasted his life have really not understood Shujinko's character and backstory at all. It is the dream of every martial artist to travel the world and learn as much as they can in their limited lifespan. Shujinko not only got this oppurtunity but also had the ability to do it at a much faster rate (due to his powers) thus fulfilling his life long dream. It was the journey that was important and not the destination. He also corrected his wrong doing by killing Onaga himself. I would say he lived an adventurous and a much more fulfilling life than any other character in MK before the events of Armageddon.
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Metal Overlord
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Shujinko, in my opinion, is honestly the most developed and relatable MK character that we have. My man FJ just proved that in spades up there; and the funny part is it only took him one game to do so lol. As for the whole "his moves are unoriginal" thing, that can easily be solved with a medium-scaled revamp in future MK installments (for example, his "stolen" moves could all be modified to fit his fighting style, or like bbblp suggested a while back, the power of yin and yang). I really want him, Kai and Fujin to take over Liu Kang's Kung Lao's and Raiden's places as the main protagonists of MK
I bet if he were an OG MK character, then people would've liked him
I bet if he were an OG MK character, then people would've liked him
I would've agreed to the whole "OG MK Character = automatic fan adoration" if people weren't so hard on Stryker and Nightwolf.
I mean it took this game to really make people finally appreciate Nightwolf and Stryker, but I think that is because Ntherrealm Studios was able to present the characters to their strongest trait. For Nightwolf it was the enlightened shaman, and for Stryker it was for being the tough as nails normal guy.
This in turn would make me think that if that time and dedication was given to Shujinko, who by the way would be awesome if he had his middle age attire as one of his costumes seeing as it was a personal fave of mine, then he could find himself gaining more fans.
I mean it took this game to really make people finally appreciate Nightwolf and Stryker, but I think that is because Ntherrealm Studios was able to present the characters to their strongest trait. For Nightwolf it was the enlightened shaman, and for Stryker it was for being the tough as nails normal guy.
This in turn would make me think that if that time and dedication was given to Shujinko, who by the way would be awesome if he had his middle age attire as one of his costumes seeing as it was a personal fave of mine, then he could find himself gaining more fans.
Flying Jinko
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I am sure if the devs put enough thought and time into Shujinko, he could be an outstanding character to play as. The way I see it, I think Shujinko should be a jack of all trades kind of character. He strength comes from the variety of fighting styles and powers he has and utilizes and not being an individual specialist in each. For example since he learnt and absorbed the powers from Sub Zero's ancestors he could be able to create a small ice ball and freeze individual opponents. But his ice summoning powers are much weaker than Sub Zeros, who can form ice spikes and a kori blade.
Thus I feel his moves should be a conjunction of the variety of powers he has got. For example he can have a parry move where his upper part of his hand gets frozen and the opponent freezes on contact. Shujinko then connects with a fiery blackflip kick. Thus it pays tribute to the original characters from whom he learnt these moves (scorpion and sub zero) but using them in his own improvised way. The enhanced version can follow with a teleport punch immediately after the back flip kick. Another move he could have is the whirlwind kick. Though originally Kung Lao's MKDA move, I think it will fit him best which can pay homage to two characters, Bo Rai Cho and Liu Kang (Whirlwind kick= flying kick + bicycle kick). The enhanced move could be a fiery version doing more damage.
Also he could have an anti air where he throws his kunai when the opponent is in the air and smashes them onto the ground.
Thus I feel his moves should be a conjunction of the variety of powers he has got. For example he can have a parry move where his upper part of his hand gets frozen and the opponent freezes on contact. Shujinko then connects with a fiery blackflip kick. Thus it pays tribute to the original characters from whom he learnt these moves (scorpion and sub zero) but using them in his own improvised way. The enhanced version can follow with a teleport punch immediately after the back flip kick. Another move he could have is the whirlwind kick. Though originally Kung Lao's MKDA move, I think it will fit him best which can pay homage to two characters, Bo Rai Cho and Liu Kang (Whirlwind kick= flying kick + bicycle kick). The enhanced move could be a fiery version doing more damage.
Also he could have an anti air where he throws his kunai when the opponent is in the air and smashes them onto the ground.
Nasty_Freak
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This version of Shujinko is my favorite.
Although he is somewhere around his late 40's to early 50's in this stage, it also depicts him as a battle hardened veteran.
His armor and overall look is quite good as well. I wish he returns as one of the main heroes of MK10, and this version of him will be the most apt, as I recall he got the invitation to participate in MK1 right after Nightwolf's soul cleansing.
Young Shujinko should be in MK10. Forget the old version!!!
Flying Jinko
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Lol why young Shujinko? Not only does it not fit in the timeline, but it takes away a lot of his personality as an expericed, wise warrior. The middle age Shujinko should return (the pic I posted above, with his armor) since it fits in the timeline and also retains his original personality.
Outworld Imp
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I believe we all can rest easy. Shujinko WILL return to MK. Ed and his team spoke highly of the character upon debut, and there are so many possibilities with this new timeline.